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Overview on Inter-Racial Relationships Over the Past Twenty Years: 2

In the previous post of this series, I pointed out that changes in the racial demography of western countries has had little effect on patterns of inter-racial dating and relationships. In many larger cities, the percentage of non-whites among the 25-and-under age group has already crossed the halfway mark. Yet, the percentage of inter-racial relationships (adjusted for population numbers) has hardly budged from levels seen twenty years ago. Also, the patterns of such relationships has not changed over the same timespan. While the comments section in my previous post is full of ‘explanations’ for this state of affairs, it is clear that too many are not willing to accept the most obvious and logical explanation aka majority of whites still deluding themselves into thinking they are somehow inherently special.

It is hard to teach new tricks to an old dog, especially when those old tricks have became part of its identity. So in this part, we will talk about how this behavior manifests itself in tragically comic ways. I am sure you must have heard about how data from dating apps and sites consistently shows that almost all women in the declining west want men who look like models. While I am not denying this fact, few of these studies talk about what women will settle for. This is a very important, but often ignored, issue since most women do not get their super-hot guy.. even for a one-night stand. So what kind of guy do these women end up with once they fail to get their model guy? More tellingly, a shlubby white guy is still far more likely to end up in a relationship with a women (white or Asian) than a non-white guy without major cosmetic issues.

Do you see what I am getting at? If patterns in interracial relationships had actually changed over past twenty years, we would have start to see as many average non-white men in interracial relationships as their female equivalents. However, this is not the case even in the so-called “LIEbral” coastal regions of this continent. A few (MikeCA?) might want you to believe that this has something to do with these men eschewing such relationships for some esoteric “cultural” reasons. But is that really so? Are men of any ethnicity and ancestry that different from each other? Men want pussy, preferably not ugly but are quite willing to overlook mediocrity in women. Most men will settle for a ‘5’ if they don’t have better options- unless she is a horrible person.

But what makes this lack of change in patterns of inter-racial dating even more hilarious is how all of this is brushed aside our age of fake “wokeness” and “diversity”. You are far more likely to hear, read and see some story of a “non-binary drag clown” reading LGBTQ-heavy stories to 6-year old children in a public library than about the lack of change in patterns of interracial dating over past two decades- though the later has a far larger sociological relevance than the former. Heck.. a male feminist (white, of course) who cuts his junk to stimulate bleeding like a woman and labels himself non-binary gets far more media coverage than an issue which has infinitely greater relevance to the future of that society. Why do non-issues represented by attention-whores (almost always white) get so much traction in the lamestream media and on internet.

While I have much more to say about this sub-topic in upcoming parts of this series, we will now move on another related issue. Have any of you wondered what will happen to societies which cannot address this problem? Once again, some of you (MikeCA?) might want to believe that lack of interracial dating and relationships will have no worthwhile effect on those societies. My opinions, as you all know, are rather different. Having read enough history, I have yet to come across examples of societies which had taboos against inter-ethnic and inter-group relationships and still remained functional over any significant period of time. In fact, I wrote a whole series about how the caste or jati system in India was so damaging to that society. To make another long story short, societies with seriously siloed patterns of marriage and relationships are highly fragmented and dysfunctional because of the complete lack of a shared identity.

Racial siloing of relationships “worked” in the west between the 1960-1990s because, during that period, non-whites in those countries were an absolute minority who could be ignored to bullied to accept the status quo. But as we know, the racial composition of people in younger age-groups is now rather different from what it was- even in the 1990s. Now tell me something, why would non-whites whose relationship and dating pool is restricted to their co-ethnics give a shit about the fate of the societies they lived in- even if they were born in them. And this is not a trivial question.. especially as idiots such as Trump are increasing the level of racial polarization.

To be clear, I am not predicting a series of increasingly violent confrontations- though that does remain a possibility. It is however very likely that such racial siloing will create increasingly dysfunctional societies centered around racial identity politics in which not much gets done and everybody pretends to be polite to each other while planning to screw other those who not part of their group. Think of how things work (or don’t work) In India and replace ‘jati’ with race. The funny thing is you are actually starting to see the beginnings of this phenomenon in places like coastal California and New York. Then again, people deserve what they get especially when they have worked so hard to (often unintentionally) ensure that outcome.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. MikeCA
    December 4, 2019 at 11:02 pm

    “If patterns in interracial relationships had actually changed over past twenty years, we would have start to see as many average non-white men in interracial relationships as their female equivalents.”

    I call BS.

    Statistics on inter-racial dating are hard to come by. Data from dating app sites are not really very informative for what is really going on.

    There is no reliable way to track dating, but there is good data for the frequency of inter-racial marriage.

    https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/02/16/the-rise-of-intermarriage/2/

    This data shows that the frequency of inter-racial marriage has been steadily increasing. The study points out that Asian men born in the USA are far more likely to be in inter-racial marriages than immigrant Asian males.

    I think this whole series is just BS.

    • Gern Blanderson
      December 5, 2019 at 8:46 am

      I agree with MikeCA on this one. The foundation of the series is shaky. Instead, you should restart this series using Charles Murray’s research from his book “Coming Apart”. That book used social-economic segregation as the cause of the marriages and family formations we see today. Then from there you could start to collect data/statistics on home many minorities are part of each social-economic segment in America and infer from that the likelihood of inter-racial dating and marriage patterns.

    • Jarien21
      December 5, 2019 at 10:20 am

      Yeah, AD’s series is starting to sound more anecdotal than intuitive at this point, since he used interracial dating as opposed to interracial marriage. Conceivably, if there were more interracial dating, it would lead to more interracial marriages since the latter is more serious.

      But AD’s post leads to insightful questions:

      Why haven’t dating and marriage patterns increased across the board, despite gender? The dominant interracial dating/marriages still follow a similar pattern of AW/WM and BM/WW. Why haven’t interracial relationships/marriages increased significantly for Asian men and Black women, to the point where they are on par with AW/WM and BM/WW couples?

      In other words, why haven’t preferences changed significantly? Why don’t more Indian men have White spouses? Why do Whites insist on dating/marrying each other more often than other races? Even White Hispanics date other White Hispanics.

      I know you can’t put the onus solely on just White people when it comes to dating, but historically they’ve had a very conceited idea about who they were as people for the past 500 years. And this keeps them from considering to date out.

      In this sense, I think this is why AD doesn’t see the increase in interracial dating/marriages/relationships very substantial. 3.2% to 9.4% doesn’t seem that big a leap when considering percentages of a growing familiarity of the “non-white” population.

      • December 5, 2019 at 6:07 pm

        “Even White Hispanics date other White Hispanics.”

        Can’t say this publicly otherwise AOC, Lizzy Warren and the whole corrupt DNC would hunt me down, but…

        I’ve experienced more overt racism from Mexicans and Brazilians in work situations than from whites. Seems like those cultures are pretty racist and overall horrible. I’d bet that there is also a ton of racism in Asian cultures they are just good at hiding it…

      • December 5, 2019 at 9:03 pm

        Everything is sexist, everything is racist, everything is homophobic and you have to point it all out to everyone all the time.

      • Tamerlane sockpuppet account 33654-119A11.23.111
        December 5, 2019 at 10:29 pm

        “Everything is sexist, everything is racist, everything is homophobic and you have to point it all out to everyone all the time.”

        loll lolls loolllz

        The weedhead was to stupid to join our collective. Glad you see it too!

      • December 6, 2019 at 8:21 am

        “Conceivably, if there were more interracial dating, it would lead to more interracial marriages since the latter is more serious.”

        Bullshit. Dating and sexual encounters doesn’t lead to marriage. Singles outnumber married people for a whole multitude of reasons. Just because people date and f**k doesn’t mean it leads to matrimony – a manmade concept to enforce control over stupid people, brought to you by The Government.

      • Jarien21
        December 6, 2019 at 9:06 am

        @Mr. Odessa

        You’re right. Some can imagine it, but it’s not necessarily so. I now don’t believe it’s the case either.

        That’s probably why AD is concentrating on dating instead of marriage, since there’s more singles who date than married couples. The downside is there’s more empirical data on the latter than the former.

        So now we just have to rely on intuition to help AD’s point, which isn’t as strong but at least makes sense. Those who understand how race plays out get what AD is saying.

        Many other people who think that economics is a major factor in who chooses who for interracial dating don’t just not get it, they’re just denying how deep their racism goes.

      • December 6, 2019 at 6:37 pm

        Exactly. Unless you’re the kind of traditional-minded alt-right, CONservative idiot (which represents the mindset of most men, even in the sad joke called “the manosphere” and PUA/Game communities) who think relationships are a hierarchy, you understand that people like who they like and that money doesn’t play a part – unless you are talking about escorts and prostitution. People don’t get together for some superficial 1950s fairy-tale or Cosby Show reason (i.e., “he has a nice job” or “she knows that her place is in the kitchen and she comes from a 2 parent household”).

        Newsflash: People choose dating and sex partners because of a vibe, physical attraction, sexual chemistry, reputation of being socially and sexually intact and because that person or group of people are fun and pleasurable to be around. Either you’ve got it, or you don’t. Of course, race plays a factor as some people feel that certain races or ethnic groups are better in bed and more adventurous.

        As AD said in one topic, a woman who can make her own money doesn’t have to settle for a guy who she thinks is incapable of getting her rocks off – which is a great thing (then again, I’ve seen sex workers reject certain types of men). As for men, it’s has it’s similarities and differences. A man doesn’t give a shit about a woman’s education and status, even if he is broke. Money and status is overrated when it comes to human sexuality. Money is only important if you’re looking to build an empire with someone, to survive, or to drain someone dry (hence the term “alpha fucks, beta bucks”. Like Alan Roger Currie said, beta males contribute to the economy/society).

        AD is also right when he mentions that segregated societies do not last long and are destined to fail. And not just due to boredom or lack shared identity. But also, lack of variety and accepting the differences of other people and cultures. The “jati” system in India is one prime example, but so was Oklahoma, 1921. And… look how dysfunctional and fucked up The Middle East and other Muslim cultures are!

        P.S. You don’t need empirical data or statistics from dating apps to see that, again, the people who are most likely to date out are black men, asian women and whites. So even if and when whites become on the verge of genetic extinction, there’s still an increasing desire of black men by nearly ALL races/ethnic groups of women. — As far as marriage, there’s a mere 100% divorce rate that’s never discussed as a “disturbing trend” among whites (which doesn’t get reported as much); proof that statistics DO lie and are rigged!

      • Jarien21
        December 7, 2019 at 4:36 am

        @Mr. Odessa and @stonerwithaboner

        Mr. Odessa:

        “You don’t need empirical data or statistics from dating apps to see that, again, the people who are most likely to date out are black men, asian women and whites.”

        So then what about Latinos and Hispanics? Or rather, Mestizos and Indigenous Americans (since a person of any race can be Latino and Hispanic)? How often do they date out? And why is it that White Hispanics mostly date and marry other White Hispanics?

        stonerwithaboner:

        “I’ve experienced more overt racism from Mexicans and Brazilians in work situations than from whites. Seems like those cultures are pretty racist and overall horrible. I’d bet that there is also a ton of racism in Asian cultures they are just good at hiding it…”

        I don’t know about Asians, but from what I hear Latin American countries seem outright hostile to people who are Black or Asian, while at the same time they try to emulate Whites in most things (including racist behavior). How true is that? What have you experienced?

        I wonder, because I see all the “Latino for Trump” signs, even though the president was adamant about sending as many illegal immigrants “back to Mexico” and sorting out the ones who were actually legal later (or never).

    • December 5, 2019 at 5:55 pm

      “The study points out that Asian men born in the USA are far more likely to be in inter-racial marriages than immigrant Asian males.”

      Open your eyes and you will see FAR more Asian women with white men than other interracial pairings. There was a blogger, Eurasian Tiger who was OBSESSED with this topic. It’s neither here nor there to me personally but still easily observable.

      On another note, MikeCA, I might agree with you that Trump is a horrible man and a racist. I might even go as far as to say that his presidency has emboldened the Alt-Reich. Now, why-oh-why won’t I vote for your beloved Democratic party? Because at least with Trump in power, I can say that the system is broken. I can at least say that this “race shit” is real and not some motherfucker that was in my mentally ill mind. If Hillary was Prez, I’d be told to sit down, shut up and check my Priviledge ™ as I just can’t handle a strong womyn.

      • P Ray
        December 6, 2019 at 6:37 am

        The other Mr. Spencer was right though.

        Many women are especially good at virtue signalling, and as AD has said (paraphrased)”Many people believe an idea that they have no intention of following through in practice”

      • December 8, 2019 at 7:28 pm

        Wasn’t this cartoon done by the legendary Eurasian Tiger?

      • Jarien21
        December 6, 2019 at 6:55 am

        @P Ray

        Yeah, that picture really does expose the hypocrisy of virtue signalling in dating, and is pretty much the point that AD expressed in his first post in this series.

        The fact that most people here don’t want to admit it, and are asking AD to use economic arguments to explain racial phenomena, is telling of how deluded and blind to their racism that they are.

  2. OhioStater
    December 5, 2019 at 9:21 am

    Can you elaborate?

    “…you are actually starting to see the beginnings of this phenomenon in places like coastal California and New York”.

  3. Jarien21
    December 5, 2019 at 10:30 am

    AD’s “Overview on Inter-Racial Relationships Over the Past Twenty Years” series seemed to be more so about Whites auto-segregating themselves from “non-whites” through dating, which might suggest segregation from others spheres of social life. That in turn will only further the declining population and social atomization of Whites. Whites will no longer be the glue that keeps the world together so to speak.

    But from there, he made a detour to something bigger, in which auto-segregation among all races will lead to a similar situation as the Jati caste system. That last point I don’t agree with. Unless you use New York City as an examples, as it seems as similar to Jati as anywhere in India. And that’s America’s premier “diversity” “melting pot”. If so, I can see what AD is getting at from an anecdotal perspective.

    Either way, the series is starting to seem like it will go all over the place. But where it loses in consistency, it’ll gain in ground covered. I’m digging it.

    • December 8, 2019 at 7:43 pm

      “What have you experienced?”

      To reply to your comment above…

      I worked with a very racist Mexican dude who tried to sabotage me at work and convinced the boss to fire me. But since the dumbasses didn’t document anything (and I always showed up on time, never threw punches) the fuckers had to give me unemployment, hahaha. Also the dude was obsessed with white women and married a fat white woman. It was like a big status symbol like driving a beemer. Also working with Brazilians, they always hook up other Brazilians and don’t really like to work with others.

      “I wonder, because I see all the “Latino for Trump” signs, even though the president was adamant about sending as many illegal immigrants “back to Mexico” and sorting out the ones who were actually legal later (or never).”

      There’s actually a really weird divide with Mexicans and I don’t fully understand it but I guess it is like Canadians and French Canadians. Some Mexicans identify as American first and dislike illegals far more than the average white person. A far left Mexican explained to me that he sees Ceasar Chavez as a bad dude. Chavez actually referred to illegals as wetbacks:

      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cesar-chavez-wetbacks-immigrants-illegals_n_3008985

      • Jarien21
        December 9, 2019 at 6:02 am

        “Some Mexicans identify as American first and dislike illegals far more than the average white person.”

        I wonder if when they say “American”, they really mean “White”. And “White”, as in “the majority”.

        One thing we all have to consider is that many Latinos in their country had privilege (Mexicans had Mexican privilege in Mexico, for example). They come over here and get placed with “minority status”, which they think is strange because in their country, they are the majority.They don’t want to consider themselves in the same boat with Black or Asian, because in their country, they were the minorities. They have a hard time adjusting so they purposefully not learn the language, create Spanish speaking only places and just stick to themselves.

        The ones who assimilate get their White trophy wives, which the way you describe it might as well just be a participation sticker.

        You know, when Latinos speak out against racism, I can’t help but think that some are actually reacting to a loss of their privilege they once had as a citizen in their own country. Makes sense, since many Latinos aren’t native to the US. But if you want to see how Whites will react to their loss of majority status, it’ll be a combination of Latino outcries, with a causal touch of the 2nd Amendment.

        I find it odd that Democrats are literally putting their weight behind Latino voters. Many of the ones who can vote, vote Republican. And many of the ones who do vote Democrat also have the racist mentality of someone from 1950.

        But I guess it’s another way to get Blacks referred to as “negros”, only en espanol this time. Like, let’s just have Spanish speakers not learn English and call Black people “negros”. That will not work out well.

  4. doldrom
    December 5, 2019 at 2:58 pm

    The last article I mentioned the need for a baseline. It seems obvious to me that people tend to prefer mates that are like them (socially, economically, culturally, and certainly physically). Even within wholly white nations, people bond on the basis of mutual recognition, which means dialect and regional culture affects preferences, and, I’m sure, so does kinship where the kinship is not taboo. From anthropologists we know that second degree family (uncle/niece) is the most common marriage bond across cultures, although you boys and girls cannot mate with patrilineal and matrilineal family respectively. In many cultures, you have difference words and even declensions for the two types of cousins/uncles etc. People bond on the basis of mutual recognition, even outside sexual friendship.
    But even without a baseline for “assortative” mating, we could ask the same questions about all the non-whites. Leaving out all relationships involving whites, how much mixing goes on between asians, blacks, and hispanics, or, more broadly, various ethnic groups, corrected of course for other variables (where they live, social and economic differentiation, etc). I don’t think there is any good data, and certainly not enough to veer of into rants about white culture before we can establish that this is a white only thing.

  5. P Ray
    December 6, 2019 at 6:43 am

    Men want pussy, preferably not ugly but are quite willing to overlook mediocrity in women. Most men will settle for a ‘5’ if they don’t have better options- unless she is a horrible person.

    And that’s where the problem is. After taking a lot of cock, many women become very skilled at coping with their heartbreak so can very accurately have no feelings to pull of a long con by playing hard to get. They then look for the man who will put up with all her BS, and since very few men get to see this side of women except players, she will very likely succeed.

    The huge percentages of divorces initiated by women indicate that they are either stupid at picking men despite their self-titled expertise at relationships … or they are wanting to cash out after a certain period. So, is it stupid or greedy?

    At any rate, men can analyse and laugh at this special species of woman at the subreddit:
    “Where are all the good men”

    Remember “If women can laugh at stupid men, men can laugh at stupid women”

  6. December 8, 2019 at 1:23 pm

    men that arent black or anglo white will just have to be more better at anything than their black and white counterparts.alot of this has to do with the media only showcasing whites and blacks ,they dont even show ethnics in negative protrayals;they just dont show them at all.nonblack ethnics just have no or very low status.

    a shlubby white 5 has the dating power of a ethnic 8.thats the blackpill.

    personally I do not blame white women for being so loyal to their white men,but I just hate hispanic-desi women for betraying their men enmasse with shitty excuses when its just racial status hypergamy and racism.

    • Jarien21
      December 9, 2019 at 5:46 am

      @lamazopamantras

      “men that arent black or anglo white will just have to be more better at anything than their black and white counterparts.”

      As it is now, Black people still have to be considered better than a White person to be considered for a lot, even in dating. Consider when White women say:

      “I like Black men because they’re bigger than White men.”

      So then, is being better in that aspect the only reason they’d choose to date a Black man? Black men have to be better than White men somehow to even be considered. It just so happens that the Black stereotype is a double-edge sword in dating.

      Once “ethnic” men (Latino/Hispanic, East/South Asian, Middle Eastern, etc) get their “positive stereotype”, White women will always be curious…

      I agree with you that, due to the history, and even how the namesakes go together, society seems to think in terms of “Black and White”. We need more representation than just 80% White – 20% everyone else, but the media can’t find the elevator pitch for it.

      But what if I told you that most Black people don’t care for the attention? What if I told you being called “bigger” doesn’t stroke the ego, so to speak? The reason the media showcases Black and White is because White people make the media for themselves, and when appropriate they obsess over Blacks (and to a lesser degree, other “ethnics”).

      Blacks have fought for media representation, yes. But Whites, still infatuated with their obsession (fear mostly) of Black people, only gave them screen time for their entertainment. So long as Whites are the ones who control the narrative.

      “I just hate hispanic-desi women for betraying their men enmasse with shitty excuses when its just racial status hypergamy and racism.”

      That goes for every non-white woman. They think being with a white man will be a dream come true. They fell for the dream. They probably don’t even realize that, in some cases, they are just a fetishist’s object. And when “ethnic” women date interracially with a “non-white” man, they simply fell for the stereotype Whites promulgated.

  7. December 8, 2019 at 1:25 pm

    its ethnic women that are my enemy,as they hate us actively and have it out for us,especially if were attractive and can get white women,theyll try to sabotage us so we dont have anyone.fuck all of them.

    • P Ray
      December 9, 2019 at 10:47 pm

      Actually, the reason ethnic women sabotage ethnic men,
      is because
      after she is done fucking Chad and Tyrone, the ethnic guy has to be her safety net, paying for her life while getting no pussy

      That is why ethnic women sabotage ethnic men.

      And the other cute reason is “You should have a mature love with me. All the wild sex I did was in the past when I was young.”

      A lot of ethnic women deserve to be cheated on actually.

  8. December 8, 2019 at 1:26 pm

    its all superficial status bullshit.no existe el amor, es todo superficial.

  9. Jack Sparrow
    December 9, 2019 at 4:18 pm

    The reason you’re seeing less interracial dating (white with any other ethnic group asides black) is because most of these offsprings are a result of immigrant families, who tend to instill traditional and ethnic values with their American born offspring. Look at the Latino American kids who are born in the United States. Many of them seem like they have an accent when they speak English. Same with Asians – many tend to stay in their ethnic enclaves (for example, the SF Bay Area); Filipinos stay in the Filipino area, Indians in the Indian area, and Chinese within the Chinese area. These kids do not have what it takes to ASSIMILATE with the Western crowd of White people because they were practically brought up with their own tribe. Thus, many of them are unable to attract a person of different ethnicity to them. Do you think a Somalian growing up in Little Mogadishu Minnesota is going to have anything common with the White person? Or any other ethnic group for that matter?
    The point is, the reason why you haven’t seen more rise in interracial relationships is because immigrants have conformed to their on enclaves, and their American born children are pretty much raised within that same tribe, that makes them seem less appealing to the opposite races.

    • P Ray
      December 9, 2019 at 10:48 pm

      It’s funny how the “problems with assimilation” only affect ethnic MEN, not ethnic WOMEN.
      Almost as if ethnic women have access to that thing called “a pussy pass”.

    • Jarien21
      December 10, 2019 at 4:43 am

      So in other words, the real reason there’s less interracial dating (white with any other ethnic group asides black) is because of “those immigrants”. “Those immigrants” won’t make themselves respectable or relateable to Whites, on their terms, so it looks like Whites have no choice but to be deprived of interracial dating. All thanks to the selfish, closed off, immigrants.

      That’s just deflection.

      White people ALSO have conformed to their own enclaves, and don’t have what it takes to assimilate with people who are different from themselves. Whites have their own tribe too, and stick with it. White Americans were statistically the least likely to wed interracially. From marriage statistics only, Whites in America are actually the most conformist group of people in the US.

      If most Whites had their way, America would be an all-white enclave. Then we’d see if your argument would have any weight.

      “Do you think a Somalian growing up in Little Mogadishu Minnesota is going to have anything common with the White person? Or any other ethnic group for that matter?”

      One way to find out, but most Whites don’t want to because they’re too busy listing the amount of differences they have with others races.

      In the meantime, let’s ask Ilhan Omar about her dating history…

  10. P Ray
    April 30, 2020 at 10:16 am

    Hurray, there will be a reversal in racism as more relationships become “economically motivated relationships” due to Corona-chan making minority men with stable jobs attractive.
    Protip: Men in the UK have sex nearly 6,000 times over their average 72 year lifespan, meaning (from legal age of 18) … 54 years of sex, at a frequency of 111 times per year.

    If she isn’t fucking you twice per week at least, she doesn’t love you, and you should kick her to the curb

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/29/half-of-worlds-workers-at-immediate-risk-of-losing-livelihood-due-to-coronavirus
    North and South America were the worst affected regions following the rapid spread of the virus through the US and Brazil, but self-employed and contract workers in Europe were also in imminent danger of seeing their livelihoods disappear.

    In the Americas, the loss of working hours in the second quarter is expected to reach 12.4% compared with the pre-crisis level. In Europe and central Asia, the decline is estimated at 11.8%.

    This translates into a drop in the incomes of informal workers of 81% in Africa and the Americas, 21.6% in Asia and the Pacific, and 70% in Europe and central Asia.

    Remember, Onlyfans and other e-thot activities … need men to pay for them, and the problem is that men are now more careful with their money … so it ends up becoming “Amateur Strip Show” … where the woman gets 0 dollars.

    Guard money well, guys. It is life. If she won’t let you put it in, you don’t let her touch your wallet …

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