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Future of One Ethno-Religious Group in USA is Not Looking Bright: 1

Let me begin by saying that I have a feeling this post is going to get more than its fair share of comments. With that out of the way, let me state an observation I made a few years ago. The general public perception of, and good-will towards, a certain ethno-religious group in USA has really gone down over the past decade. More worryingly, for them, this decline shows no sign of slowing down- nor does it appear to have reached even a temporary floor. Just so that all of you know, I was not born into any monotheistic religion nor do I believe in any other religion, be it traditional or secular. Furthermore, I have worked with many people belonging to this specific ethno-religious group throughout my career and don’t have an especially negative or positive opinion about them. In other words, I have no dog in this fight.

With that in mind, let us finally get into this rather controversial topic. But before going there, it is important to understand that the vast majority of this group aren’t rich or powerful- with most being somewhere between middle-class and upper-middle class. But for reasons, historical and contemporary, the majority of this group ends up being seen as no different from their own rich and increasingly disliked minority. My point is that this association is now increasingly having negative consequences for their overall public image and this will, sooner or later, find its way into real life- especially if the average quality of life in countries such as USA keeps going down. To understand what I am talking about, you might want to brush up on your European history, and not just the part between 1933-1945. Moreover, the causes behind this current trend are multi-factorial and have a lot with do with how things worked out after 1945, especially in USA.

1] The public has lost faith in neoliberalism and its institutions. Oddly enough, the most important reason for the increasingly negative public perception of this group is accidental. As I have often hinted in many of my previous posts, the past twenty years have become the two “lost”decades for most people in this country. And yes, there are many culprits- ranging from deindustrialization, loss of stable jobs and careers, negative effects of unchecked corporate monopolization. However the top 10-20% (not just the top 1%) have done OK during this period. It just so happens that the top 10-20% have a noticeably higher percentage of aforementioned group. Now this was not a problem during the period between 1945-2001.. you know, when the economy was kinda working for most people. But it becomes rather hard to ignore when the economy has not worked for most people for past twenty years.

To make matters worse, the managerial class of this country (both middle and upper) who are most closely associated with laying off people, closing factories, running hostile HR departments also contain a noticeably high percentage of this group. The occupations and professions which people most closely associate with their immiseration often unfortunately have a hard to ignore percentage of said group. Furthermore, professions which have preserved their income via cartel formation (doctors, dentists etc) or through closed-off private ‘clubs’ (large law firms, investment banking etc) also have a rather noticeable percentage of this group. Once again, none of this would have mattered if the economy was working for most people- but it isn’t! And it gets worse..

The academic defense of neoliberal economic policies in USA, is conducted by paid credentialed “academics”, “scholars”, “experts” and other assorted intellectuals. Once again, a rather large percentage of the more famous intellectual defenders of neoliberalism unfortunately belong to this group. To be clear, I am not suggesting that the majority of people from this group subscribe to neoliberalism. Indeed, there is good evidence that a fair number of them do actively oppose neoliberalism. However, in the minds of the public, the imposition and defense of neoliberal economic policies (aka their immiseration) is now associated with this group- significantly more so than others. This was not always the case. In fact, during a good part of the last century this group produced many famous people who preached in defense of socialism, justice and equality.

2] Greatly increased insularity and living in social, cultural bubbles is not helpful. One of the many effects of the neoliberal transformation of USA in past forty years has been the vastly increased levels of intellectual and political and polarization. We all know that people living in affluent areas and suburbs of coastal cities have vastly different views on a number of topics from their counterparts living in less affluent parts of the same state. It only gets worse when you start comparing the social and cultural bubbles of those living in affluent coastal zip-codes with their counterparts in some city or large town in the ‘flyover’ states. I have made this point in a number of recent posts such as link 1, link 2 and link 3. The educational and geographical concentration of aforementioned group result in them taking stances on many issues (gun control, SJW-ism and other “woke” performative behavior etc) which are at odds with most people in this country.

To make matters worse, supporting fashionable “woke” fads, trends and behaviors while also been seen as the human face of neoliberal immiseration makes one look especially hypocritical, fake and well.. despicable. Once again, other affluent whites of various European ancestries who are credentialed in the same institutions and living in same zip-codes also inhabit the same social bubble. However the lack of a distinctive last name or ancestry shields them from being subject to the same degree of public contempt. There is a reason why the alt-right has been so successful at labeling the coastal elite as rootless cosmopolitans with no real connection to this country. And there is a reason that this trend gathered steam after 2010. In future posts of this series, I will go into how connecting one’s religious identity to a particular country and embracing a strident version of race-based nationalism is not a good idea as well as being deeply ironic.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. Mage
    December 9, 2019 at 3:45 am

    This group doesn’t help themselves, and I am married to one, when it sees any criticism of one or an organization associated with this group as incitement. It doesn’t allow any scholarship of any event, good or bad, associated with this group less an outsider be labeled anti- and be taken out from the media and financial sectors, which lets be honest, they have an outside influence. I love members of this group and feel sorry for their past, but this over the top whoa is me and any criticism or debate is incitement to violence and their over the too reaction is getting old, really fast and I would advise them to let others speak and cut your censorship before others think they have no other recourse.

    • Mage
      December 11, 2019 at 7:18 am

      https://mobile.twitter.com/ramzpaul/status/1204642340419383296

      It’s truly amazing how the leaders of this group have no self-awareness.

      • Jarien21
        December 11, 2019 at 9:51 am

        Trump isn’t doing anything Obama’s administration hasn’t considered. Obama’s administration wanted “Muslim-American” to be on the census. Now Trump’s administration wants “Judeo-Americans”, even if temporary just to punish…neoliberal activity on the university.

        The recent development both bolsters and clashes with AD’s perspective.

        While everyone in the media is trying to make Trump seem like he’s anti-Obama, he’s actually “reverse Obama”. As in Obama = new Democrat, Trump = new Republican. Trump isn’t actually an aberrant case, he “all according to plan”, as the Joker would say. He’s the new status quo. The Republicans fighting against him are fighting against the culture, for their political jobs.

        I don’t think AD has made this connection yet (or he has in a post I missed). When he does, I’ll be happy to read his thoughts.

        Sidenote: if anything this makes my point that it’s moreso about whites drawing up racial lines against other whites, as opposed to just being fed up with neo-liberalism (although that’s the catalyst).

  2. Jarien21
    December 9, 2019 at 6:32 am

    There was a time when this “Ethno-Religious” group weren’t seen as White. But they took on that moniker, and reaped the benefits, often at the expense of other minorities. Overtime, they earned their “White status” by engaging in the same racist behaviors. Unfortunately, they take on the baggage, as it comes with the territory.

    Now that the future of Whites isn’t looking so bright, Whites are getting anxious and agitated and are looking for others to blame. Only, Whites of the Anglo-Saxon variety know very well who is and who isn’t, and they are pointing fingers at “the impostors”. In other words, Whites broke the system they created, and this certain “Ethno-Religious” group you speak of is a scapegoat.

    As I see it, it’s only going to be a matter of time before even White Liberals unironically uses terms such as “Whiteness” actually to stand in for this certain “Ethno-Religious” group you speak of, and not those of the Anglo-Saxons variety. It’s getting to be that crazy out there. White Conservatives already criticize this group you say, they just won’t be so discreet about it anymore.

    As you say, it’s White history to project their (un)doing onto others, especially this group.

    The glaring mystery is, this certain “Ethno-Religious” tries to fit in with Whites. Many put “White” on their census. Many hide their “Ethno-Religious” background. And they do this in places where nationalism against them has the potential to reach an all time high.

    • Jay Fink
      December 10, 2019 at 4:43 am

      “Many put “white” on their census”.

      Actually nearly all do without giving it a second thought. What are we supposed to check off? There are only a few boxes for race and all Jews I know of think of themselves as white. Judaism is both a religion and ethnicity but not a race within itself. Do Italians tell the Census they are white? Absolutely and Ashkenazi DNA is similar to Italians.

      Quit thinking neoliberalism is a code word for Jews. It’s a lot bigger than that. Most neolibs are not Jewish nor are the vast majority of those who vote for them. Jews are a small and aging population. We could be gone tomorrow and neoliberalism would still be here. Also remember we (meaning ever person on earth) are individuals. My ethnicity is 99.3% Ashkenazi but I am against neoliberalism as much as anyone.

      • Jarien21
        December 10, 2019 at 6:35 am

        “Actually nearly all do without giving it a second thought. What are we supposed to check off?”

        Other.

        “Do Italians tell the Census they are white? Absolutely and Ashkenazi DNA is similar to Italians.”

        Italians could put down “Other” as well. Sometime around 1950, they too became White.

        “Quit thinking neoliberalism is a code word for Jews.”

        I don’t think that.

        You can be against neo-liberalism all you want. But what I am saying is what the Anglo-Saxons will think. You know, your “fellow Whites”. They’re the ones that’ll make this assumption.

        We all need to be more worried about them associating certain people with neo-liberalism as a scapegoat, because when they become nationalistic…

  3. Yusef
    December 9, 2019 at 11:57 am

    Neoliberalism is a very strange phenomenon. It has the features of indoctrination and strict conformity within its ranks. As such, neoliberalism really has very little, if any relationship to liberalism, Liberalism assumed a free individual capable of rational thought and autonomy.

    The blinder effect of neoliberalism is what is getting more and more interesting as it gets more and more intense. You have people running the country, and in large measure the world, who don’t really perceive the world and its complexity very well. In a way, they refuse. They believe their indoctrination is all they require and after they have their “credential” it is fine and dandy to close their eyes and shut their ears ever after.

    If you are trying to solve a problem, I think it is a good idea to be open, initially, to all of the potential and alternative solutions and options available. This is definitely refused by these people. They still believe in the near-magical powers of the marketplace to solve all problems, and this in spite of the fact Wall Street and the free market committed suicide about 12 years ago (in August of 2007.)

  4. P Ray
    December 9, 2019 at 11:00 pm

    Speaking about this group and their very obvious control of the media, what you see is only the TIP of the iceBERG.

    And the funny thing is, they are the ones who speak about being open-minded, yet have a lot of trouble accepting a “Lost Tribe” when their skin colour happens to be darker.

    Perhaps they think their success is due to being “God’s Chosen People” … or to use an Asian term, they think they are “Golden Cheese Pies” …

    but how does “God’s Chosen People” get chosen to be abused and oppressed so often in the past?

    At any rate they are running out of places to be safe in, maybe actually being less racist or stopping stymieing activities would help.

    But some people read history as a record, not a lesson.

    • Yusef
      December 10, 2019 at 11:28 am

      but how does “God’s Chosen People” get chosen to be abused and oppressed so often in the past?

      The answer to this question is easily found in their own scriptures. They invented the concept of sin. When they disobeyed God, he punished them by expelling them from the Garden of Eden to where they would live a life of sweat, toil, and hardship. If afterwards they submitted to the Will of God, they would be somewhat spared, but if they strayed yet again, disaster would ensue.

      God is ripping them a new asshole quite frequently, as they see it. That’ll keep happening until the final redemption, which they think hasn’t occurred.

      In other words, they don’t see a conflict or contradiction between being “God’s Chosen People” and their long, long history of abuse and oppression. I’m not making fun of them for this view. It isn’t a matter of their egotism and greediness, either.

  5. Yusef
    December 10, 2019 at 11:20 am

    I’ve had a lot of trouble adjusting to the idea “this Ethno-Religious group” is no longer leftist and many are now more firmly allied with the far right, especially in foreign policy, than those they used to consider, and call, fascists.

    I attribute this to their allegiance with/to Israel and Zionism and the terrible consequences of this perhaps well-intentioned and under the circumstances understandable program. The decision to abandon the essential concept of separation of church and state is another example, by the way, of why neoliberalism has little in common with liberalism.

    bingo!

    I don’t know if this is relevant to this discussion, but note how the USA managed to create in Iraq another nation where the separation of church and state has been abandoned. I think it is relevant because in the USA neocon, neoliberal, regular old con, regular old liberal, are all becoming distinctions without a difference. I consider this dire, because we can’t think clearly without these distinctions. We get such phenomena as McCarthyite democrats in the form of one notorious participant here.

    They can’t do to others what we once deplored being done to them without becoming deplored themselves, which has happened and will have consequences they apparently no longer have the sensibility to predict. I regret it because I had previously learned so much and benefitted so much from them. I swear I learned to now deplore them from them.

  6. (((They))) Live
    December 11, 2019 at 8:03 pm

    Ah yes the worlds foremost problem, they really are an amazing people, how people view them is a good demonstration of media power and also the decline of MSM power, most white boomers lick their boots and are happy to see their children fight and die for them in countries they couldn’t find on a map, younger people know better, blacks, Asians ect are wise to their BS

    The media really can control what most people think, as Alexander Solzhenitsyn said

    “You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the “Russian Revolution.” It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators.

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