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Recent Iowa Democrat Caucus was the 737-MAX of Electoral Primaries

By now, all of you might must have heard that the democrat party presidential primary caucus for 2020 in Iowa was an epic shitshow. At the time of writing this brief post, the “official” results had not even crossed the 75% mark (74.79% to be precise)– and it has been almost three days after the shitshow was over. It is clear to me that the Iowa democratic party (IDP) is trying to delay the final results as long as possible to make sociopathic Pete Buttboy look like the “winner”, even though it is obvious that Bernie Sanders won it. It goes without saying that dying and discredited corporate media outlets such as CNN and MSNBC are also fully into this scam. To that end, the DNC and its local people at the IDP are intentionally delaying announcing the results of specific large caucus locations known to be very favorable to Bernie Sanders.

Have a look at this post from the Intercept about how the last-minute “App” developed for official data collection in this state caucus was a product of democratic establishment insiders. Read about how the specific person behind the appropriately (and ironically) named ‘Shadow’ app was a controversial and very pro-establishment figure in the democratic party. Did I mention that this person, a certain Tara McGowan, was a big supporter of Pete Buttboy’s presidential campaign? It is also rather interesting that she is married to Michael Halle, a political consultant who worked as a lead organizer in Iowa for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and is a senior strategist for Pete Buttboy. Incompetent credentialed losers live and breathe in small incestuous circles, don’t they?

But it gets better. The team of incompetent credentialed insider losers who were responsible for this app were neither software experts or good at anything beyond deep-kissing establishment democrat ass. They were all part of Hillary Clinton’s unsuccessful 2016 presidential campaign.. you know, the one here she lost a election to a lecherous reality-show host. Of course, there has been no official explanation as to why a small team of incompetent political operatives were paid hundreds of thousands to develop an app that nobody needed and which was not tested under anything approaching real-life conditions- if at all. Oh.. and the backup phone-based system to communicate results to party headwaters was mysteriously not working properly on that day.

But it gets even better. Sociopath Pete Buttboy’s campaign was a very recent donor to the make-believe “corporation” which made the shitty app that was unnecessary and misreported numbers- if it even worked. While there are those who attribute this still ongoing shitshow to terminal institutional incompetence on the part of democratic establishment, it is my opinion that more than a little malice was also involved. Michael Tracey makes a very good argument that the Iowa Caucus results should be voided, since any results that come out of this epic clusterfuck with oodles of malice are unlikely to be trusted by most people- especially those voting in upcoming democratic primaries. Did I mention that Iowa caucus turnout was mediocre this year, though younger than previous years. Apparently, the Trump impeachment bullshit isn’t selling in Iowa.

The fact that democrat party establishment could screw up their own primary caucus in the same week as they failed to get Trump removed from office tells you all you need to know about the state of that party. Then again, what can you expect from a party which (just like its republican counterpart) is still living in a world that no longer exists. I am sure we will hear more about how this fiasco went down by this weekend and it likely wont be the last one in 2020.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. nyolci
    February 6, 2020 at 12:53 am

    They (the Democratic Party establishment) thought the problem (Bernie Sanders) would go away if enough money was thrown upon it. It didn’t. Now they try to fluff this Buttgap guy.

  2. MikeCA
    February 6, 2020 at 10:15 am

    “Oh.. and the backup phone-based system to communicate results to party headwaters was mysteriously not working properly on that day.”

    Apparently, the number of the backup phone system was posted on 4ch message boards and people flooded the lines making it impossible to get through.

    • Yusef
      February 6, 2020 at 10:28 am

      So?

      Do you mean if what you say is true then the failure was not mysterious? Or do you mean it’s not the fault of the IDP their backup could be flooded? Or that the IDP posted the number on 4ch message boards precisely to facilitate the backup phone being flooded? Or someone else did? Or flooding of a backup system was a contingency professionals could never have anticipated? (And if this last, please explain that.)

      It might be what you say may shed some light on the cluster-F*, but it is still a cluster-F*, and it is still at this point a rather mysterious one.

      • MikeCA
        February 6, 2020 at 3:30 pm

        “Do you mean if what you say is true then the failure was not mysterious? Or do you mean it’s not the fault of the IDP their backup could be flooded? Or that the IDP posted the number on 4ch message boards precisely to facilitate the backup phone being flooded? Or someone else did? Or flooding of a backup system was a contingency professionals could never have anticipated? (And if this last, please explain that.)”

        Perhaps you should write a post blaming the engineers who designed the world trade center for failing to design the building strong enough to withstand a jumbo jet flying into the side of the building.

        Your comment is just remarkably obvious bullsh*t.

      • Yusef
        February 7, 2020 at 9:18 am

        A series of questions and a request for explanation is “remarkably obvious bullsh*t”?

        As far as writing a post about the WTC not being designed to withstand a jumbo jet, I could at least point out right now it had been designed to withstand the impact of aircraft. This had been considered by the original engineers, and thus it was a crucially stupid piece of bull when, IIRC Condie Rice said such an event had not been anticipated.

        But I think your point is you believe I am blaming the authors of the software and the elections systems, including the backup, of being unable to anticipate every eventuality. Indeed that would be a stupid thing to accuse them of, for nobody can anticipate each and every possible disaster or unprecedented magnitudes of such disasters as have been encountered in the past.

        If so, it is a typically dumb comment from the master of dumb comments, because these morons who have so publicly strutted their ineptitude and bumbling weren’t faced with such a situation. Their incompetence is indeed on the level of the incompetence of the engineers of the 737-max, and they just plain do not have the “out” you apparently wish to bestow upon them.

        I love you MikeCa, I really do.

        You are really the best.

        Someday this period of AD’s blog will be referred to lovingly as ” the MikeCA golden years.”

      • MikeCA
        February 7, 2020 at 2:56 pm

        “But I think your point is you believe I am blaming the authors of the software and the elections systems, including the backup, of being unable to anticipate every eventuality.”

        The authors of the software clearly vastly over sold what they were capable of delivering. I think they were charlatans trying to cash in on their connections.

        The trolling campaign to flood the backup phone system was a deliberate act of sabotage. It should be illegal to try to sabotage the vote counting, but I have no idea if it is in Iowa.

        I suspect the backup phone system is probably very similar to the system used by the Iowa caucuses for years. Since it had worked for years, I don’t think you can blame the leaders for not realizing that a trolling campaign could prevent the system from working. I blame the trolls.

    • Roach Coach
      February 8, 2020 at 8:45 pm

      MikeCA is the typical affluent boomer idiot who believes RussiaGate, probably voted for Hillary, and still thinks an establishment DemocRAT should be the winner. It’s so absurd that you’re buying the whole 4chan nonsense.

  3. Gern Blanderson
    February 7, 2020 at 5:13 am

    All of the credentialed Washington/NewYork elite act like undisciplined children. Trump has childish tweets. Pelosi and Adam Schiff start a childish impeachment circus with Pelosi capping it off with tearing paper like a toddler. The mainstream media (Don Lemmon and CNN and NYT) laugh like children and middle American voters on national TV. It is no surprise that we have this current clown show.

    • Yusef
      February 7, 2020 at 9:31 am

      No surprise at all.

      Nancy Pelosi was first elected to the House in 1987, which means she’s been in there for over thirty-two years, many of which have been spent with her in a position there of high visibility. What’s been on view is a jaded, rich, out of touch, emotionally-stunted, rigid and likely frigid spoiled brat. And hey, she gets away with it. Watch her get away with spearheading this quixotic mess.

  4. Salam Al-Omaishi
    February 7, 2020 at 12:20 pm

    MikeCA do we know who posted the number? The reason I ask is just because the number was posted on 4chan doesn’t necessarily mean it was rightwing or conservative individuals that posted it.

    On the contrary, the person who posted the number was probably somebody or someone who knows the process in Iowa, has access to the phone number, and whose candidate would likely benefit the most from the chaos. In this case, it’s obvious that this person is most likely to have had ties to either Trump or the Buttigieg campaigns. The Buttigieg campaign arguably benefitting the most.

    • MikeCA
      February 7, 2020 at 2:45 pm

      I read somewhere that some TV station or new organization posted a picture of the paper work forms with high enough resolution that you could read the number. Someone who saw the number there, apparently posted it. Not clear if this claim is true.

  5. MikeCA
    February 7, 2020 at 1:04 pm

    I worked for almost 40 years as a software engineer. I saw my share of software projects that failed disastrously. In the one case I was working on one of these projects, I had the foresight to get transferred off the project because it was obvious to me it was going to completely fail. Even though it was obvious to me and some other engineers, the project continued on for years before it was eventually killed by the customers.

    Tell me something.. why do you require an app- when a text, email or even a fax with an attached photo of the signed paper worksheet would have been sufficient?

    Software engineers are notoriously bad at estimating the amount of work required to build and test an application. Management at many software companies are even worse. I was once told on a performance review that because my estimates of work required to implement features were 2X higher than other engineers, it discouraged management from approving projects and I needed to be more optimistic in my estimates, even though projects often turned out to take longer than my estimates. I left that company shortly after that because it was obvious that management had no idea what they were doing any more. They were partly panicking because another huge product development project that I was not involved in, which was suppose to be done in 6 months was still not done after a year. It seemed obvious to me that it would take 2 years or more to finish from the start, but the project was killed by management for taking too long.

    Software engineers that can estimate roughly how much work is required get pushed aside by charlatans that tell management what they want to hear. I have seen this happen over and over. Developing these campaign apps requires a lot of work and testing, but the party leaders have been reluctant to invest in developing these apps between election cycles. When the election comes along, they suddenly realize they need these apps, and they get taken in by charlatans like Shadow who will promise to deliver what they need by the time they need it at a price they can afford.

    I do not fault the Iowa Democrats for not knowing enough about software to realize the people behind Shadow were charlatans, but I hope they learn from this experience that they need to start investing in software well before the election and they need to find companies that have a track record of delivering working applications.

    • (((They))) live
      February 7, 2020 at 2:01 pm

      You don’t need software to count votes, low tech methods are faster, harder to hack, and suffer from far less problems, the Dems like apps and tech because its so much easier to rig

    • MikeCA
      February 7, 2020 at 3:15 pm

      “Tell me something.. why do you require an app- when a text, email or even a fax with an attached photo of the signed paper worksheet would have been sufficient?”

      Clearly you don’t require an app for counting votes.

      An app that worked, text, email, fax or phone calls would all work to report results to be entered in a spread sheet to get the final results. All of these reporting methods are hack-able by determined trolls, but the election night results are always “unofficial” results anyway.

      What we need to recognize is elections are now under attack from trolls that are trying to undermine our democracy and discourage people from voting.

      The DNC and democratic establishment is clearly trying to undermine Sanders, and you are blaming it on trolls? Are you stupid or don’t want to see the obvious?

  6. MikeCA
    February 7, 2020 at 6:47 pm

    “The DNC and democratic establishment is clearly trying to undermine Sanders, and you are blaming it on trolls? Are you stupid or don’t want to see the obvious?”

    Do you have any evidence to support that?

    By the way, thousands of Russian bots and the useful idiots that repeat their messages on twitter does not count as evidence.

    While it is true that the DNC and establishment Democrats do not like Sanders, I think it is absurd to suggest that the DNC deliberately sabotaged the counting process in Iowa to undermine Sanders. It does a lot more damage to the Democratic party than it does to Sanders.

    • Yusef
      February 8, 2020 at 10:53 am

      I don’t have firm ideas of who did what, when, or why. What I do know is these people are asking Americans for their support to acquire a very difficult job coming with a lot of responsibility, risk, and dangers of all sorts. They have to be able to demonstrate they can handle that, at least better than the one currently in that position. They aren’t doing a very good job, and they can’t toss it off to “we’re poor little victims” of the big bad world. That’s precisely what they need to show they are not. They have to show they are on top of things,not beneath them and pathetic.

      Do you understand this?

      If they keep messing up, they are dooming us to four more years of the orange buffoon.

      BTW, it isn’t implausible to me the DNC is sabotaging Sanders, even though this undermines the democratic party even worse. The DNC is being operated according to the special interests of a small group of democrats, not for the rank and file. I personally believe these special interests are of the Clinton dynasty. They’re nasty and selfish and have already done much to destroy the democrats, as such. I believe they undermined Sanders in 2016 and against Trump Sanders would have won. That hurt the party and then ultimately the nation.

  7. February 8, 2020 at 2:52 pm

    “The DNC and democratic establishment is clearly trying to undermine Sanders, and you are blaming it on trolls? Are you stupid or don’t want to see the obvious?”

    I may not have the analytical, haha ANALyitical mind that you do, Mr. Diablo, but didn’t Iowa do more to sink Mr. Neoliberal, Joe “Bite Me” Biden than hurt Sanders? I mean now he is essentially battling one guy with Biden/Warren on the sidelines…

    Seems like he is in a better position than even a few weeks back…

    Just because they didn’t succeed does not mean they didn’t try..

    • February 8, 2020 at 8:47 pm

      So I suppose the next logical question to ask is the Democrat part willing to shoot itself in the foot to spite Col. Sanders and give Trump the Chump another 4 years…

  8. MikeCA
    February 8, 2020 at 3:10 pm

    “I don’t have firm ideas of who did what, when, or why. What I do know is these people are asking Americans for their support to acquire a very difficult job coming with a lot of responsibility, risk, and dangers of all sorts.”

    The candidates running for president have no control over the vote counting process.

    “BTW, it isn’t implausible to me the DNC is sabotaging Sanders, even though this undermines the democratic party even worse.”

    The Democratic party officials do not like Sanders. Even though Sanders is running for president as a Democrat, he has never been a member of the Democratic party. Is it surprising they don’t like an outsider, who refuses to join the party, running for the party presidential nomination?

    “… against Trump Sanders would have won.”

    I think it is highly unlikely Sanders would have won in 2016. Trump would have run a completely different campaign if Sanders had won the nomination. All you would have heard from Trump and every other Republican was Sanders is a Socialist/evil Communist who would turn the USA into a failed state like Venezuela. Trump is not attacking Sanders much now, because Trump figures Sanders would be one of the easiest candidates to defeat in 2020 too.

    • Yusef
      February 9, 2020 at 1:01 pm

      The candidates running for president have no control over the vote counting process.

      The democratic party does, though, and these candidates, if selected by their party will represent that party in November. That party also represents them. Sanders actually is a democrat in every meaning of the word. The problem is, and here you clearly illustrate the mind-fuck as so often you do, he is not seen as a democrat by the democratic party officials as outside the party for the simple reason he doesn’t support the neoliberal agenda and is not inside the Clinton-controlled machinery.

      It is this that, in my opinion, and in the opinion of many other democrat-voting Americans, it is Sanders who is the only democrat around. The party constituency– and a majority of Americans– are not fooled by the DNC, or the RNC, for that matter. The oldish “neoliberal” rhetoric is seen for what it is. The dirty old smears and redbaiting are seen for what they are. By your logic of what used to work, Trump wouldn’t have won in 2016 either. He would have been smeared as an adulterous, conniving, greedy fatboy rich kid without ANY governmental experience or political credibility.

      I shouldn’t call such characterization as a smear because actually it is accurate. The point is the old rules don’t work. The old games aren’t the ones now being played. I think your one and only problem is your thought has been a little slow in registering these changes.

  9. MikeCA
    February 9, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    “The point is the old rules don’t work. The old games aren’t the ones now being played. I think your one and only problem is your thought has been a little slow in registering these changes.”

    The theory of a Sanders win over Trump is: Sanders will lose some moderate Democrats/independents but he will energize a larger group of people who haven’t voted in the past. The Iowa caucuses turn out was barely up from 2016 and way down from 2008. So far there is not a lot of evidence of Sanders energizing a large group of new voters.

    The big question is what happens when Trump and the Republicans unload on the obvious attacks on Sanders. The obvious attacks on Trump didn’t work in 2016 because the racist base of the Republican party didn’t care. Attacking Sanders as a crazy socialist/communist who will turn the USA into failed state like Venezuela might be more effective. Republicans thing it will be.

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