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USA Will Likely Suffer the Most Damage from Coronavirus Pandemic: 1

Some of you will remember that I have previously written four previous posts (link 1, link 2, link 3 and link 4) on the ongoing global coronavirus outbreak. Consider this post as the next part of that unofficial series. And yes.. there is a specific reason why I am not making it into an official series, yet. The situation is still evolving and could take a number of highly consequential turns. For example, it is possible that one or more of presidential candidates (Trump, Biden, Sanders) might catch COVID-19 and pass away by election day. Imagine the impact on political scene if Dementia Joe, who also has a long-standing cardiac arrhythmia (atrial fibrillation), dies within the next month. So let us now talk about the potential impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on USA- which I predict will suffer the most damage (direct and indirect) of any country.

1] It is, now, almost a given that there will be an economic recession in this country within the next three months. Sure.. Trump’s fucking up things will make it worse, but it would have been pretty bad even if a semi-competent loser such as Obummer was in office. One cannot just shut down or reduce the activity of so many businesses sectors (airlines, hotels, other tourism related business, restaurants, shops etc) without causing a serious economic downturn. Unlike during previous eras, most jobs in this country are now in the service sector. Did I mention that these jobs offer low job security and poor pay? To make a long story short, most people in the service sector and other business dependent on it are not going to get paid soon- which is a problem since over 60% of people in this country don’t have enough savings to cover their next month’s rent or mortgage payment. And it gets worse.

2] As many of you know, the so-called ‘gig economy’ which flourishes by exploiting ‘independent contractors’ has become a fixture of life in many larger cities over past decade. While these “jobs” are often not the only source of income for those who perform them, they often provide the extra money necessary for many people to “participate in the consumer economy”. So even if ‘Uber’ guy also drives for a regular Taxicab company, any reduction in his expected income from rise-sharing services is going to fuck with his ability to pay bills on time, let alone keep spending on stuff he would normally buy. But the numbers in the ‘gig economy’ pales in comparison to those employed as ‘independent contractors’ by large companies. These ‘contractors’ are often employed by businesses who themselves are dependent on contracts from large companies such as Google, FakeBook, Amazon, Walmart and yes.. even your local hospital, university, school etc.

3] Some democrat cultists (MikeCA?) will try to tell you that the Obummer administration would have done an infinitely better job than the Trump administration. But it is that really true? While the Obummer administration did face some pandemics such as the influenza pandemic of 2009, there is no way to accurately predict how they would have would responded to such a pandemic. See.. COVID-19, unlike Ebola or MERS, is far easier to spread. While it is likely that the Obummer administration would have behaved more professionally, it is unlikely this would have somehow translated into better policy. If you don’t believe me, just look at how that administration handled the foreclosure crisis in 2009-20210 or how it kept pushing outsourcing and globalization even when it was obvious that those policies were screwing over their voter bases. So ya.. there is no definitive evidence that a Obummer administration would have done screwed up any less- even if they would have acted more “professionally” while doing so.

4] Let us now talk about how the defects inherent in the american “healthcare” system, default neoliberal ideology among both political parties and Trump’s obsession with the stock market will fuck things up- even more than they have to be. For starters, consider the issue of testing. Ask yourself a simple question- how can countries such as South Korea and Canada quickly test a pretty high number of people for COVID-19? Well.. the simple answer is that healthcare in both those countries (and every developed country other than USA) is treated as a public good which is highly regulated by the government to make it available (rather than merely “accessible”) to all their people. In contrast, the “healthcare” system is a bureaucratic nightmare full of multiple powerful lobbies whose sole purpose is to extract the maximum amount of money for the least amount of actual healthcare. This intentional design choice makes the system almost incapable of responding or adapting to new challenges and pressures.

Then there is the issue of how people within the system work, or don’t work. See.. in all other developed countries, physicians and other people actually involved in running the system have considerable freedom to make decisions on the fly if conventional approaches don’t seem to be working. For example, in both South Korea and Canada, insurance companies have no role whatsoever in approving tests, treatments in hospital etc. Also the vast majority of hospitals in those countries are not run to make a profit. Consequently, they put the welfare of patients above considerations such as whether some test or medication will get reimbursed. That is why countries such as South Korea were able to put up scores of convenient testing facilities so quickly. However this is not the case in USA even today, and Medicare for all is still considered a pipe-dream by “centrists” such as MikeCA. Moving on to governing ideology..

5] Every developed country other than USA has far more competent governmental bureaucracies because their politicians and populace understand their necessity. However, in this country corporate-funded politicians a good percentage of their brainless subjects are more than happy to go along with the bullshit about governmental bureaucracies being inefficient and “bad”. Guess what.. once you assume that and defund government bureaucracies you will end up with hollow shells of once well-known institutions such as the NTSB and CDC. And this is how you end up with disasters such as the Boeing 737-Max fiasco and, now, the COVID-19 outbreak spiraling out of control in USA. While shills such as MikeCA would like to blame all of this on evil republicans, let me remind you that all the cutting and slashing of governmental bureaucracies which occurred from 1980 to today was largely supported by a bipartisan “consensus”.

Since this post is already above a thousand words, I will leave discussion about other issues such as the lack of a social safety net in this country, the staffing of nursing homes and elder care by precariat workers, unwillingness of government to directly compensate temporary and part-time workers, risk of widespread shortages of products such as medicines, chemicals, electronic stuff etc caused by temporary disruption of supply chains in China, to another post or a new series.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. March 14, 2020 at 2:17 pm

    Trump the Chump has most likely been exposed to Coronavirus:

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/brazilian-official-met-trump-coronavirus-positive-bolsonaro-test

    Colonel Sanders already has heart problems that would lead to weakened ability to handle exposure…

    And, well, Sloppy Joe just can’t keep his hands to himself…

    The economy going in the shitter will likely give the democraps the “victory” MikeCA covets so much…

    …however, this may cause cataclysmic damages to the US healtscare system and make Berniepoops “Medicaid for all” option more appealing…

  2. March 14, 2020 at 2:18 pm

    Also, wouldn’t be surprised if there is an outbreak at a “hip” technology company as manny have open office layouts…

    • March 16, 2020 at 12:38 pm

      There is an outbreak of the GRIDS virus… in my pants

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRID_(disease)

    • muhweedandmuhdick
      March 16, 2020 at 12:39 pm

      There is an epidemic of the GRIDS virus…

      … in my pants.

      en . wikipedia . org/wiki/GRID_(disease)

      • Plaque Doctor
        March 16, 2020 at 5:36 pm

        ugh…

        Stonah wit ah bona is too estupido too know what GRIDS is, but I sure do. I visited this highly esteemed blog to find out how to get prostitutes because I am an anti-natalist. I am also a white nationalist on the downlow…

        So I realized I didn’t have to be paying some icky woman to get what a fellow white nationalist would give me for free, yes the Wolves of Vineland portland chapter made a visit to my socialist country in the Netherlands. And they visited my esteemed nether regions.

        Here’s Jack:

        Even though us white nationalists are immune-compromised, we won’t be getting that icky coronavirus….

        Anti-natalism for the win!

  3. doldrom
    March 14, 2020 at 6:15 pm

    I fear that Canada is dropping the ball on testing too. Per 100.000 it is only marginally better than the USA. There are other Western countries that are also doing terrible in the testing department.

    But for America this will be an epic shit show. Not just because of the (health care) system, but you chances on becoming infected depend on how much of your respiratory capacity you can give away to the virus temporarily. If you run up to the 12th floor using the stairs, you’ve got some reserves. Many people in America are huffing after the fourth step.

  4. P Ray
    March 14, 2020 at 7:00 pm

    Pooning on a budget will get even better, as healthcare in the final weeks consumes a whole lot of money.
    Add this and escape from student loans, and there will be a huge influx of Americans/Europeans into the “teach English” sector of Asia if they can’t secure money by e-thotting.

    Plus as all men get redpilled the amount of simpanzees willing to give money without getting anything in return, is dropping.

    I really don’t see a down side.

  5. TimNewman
    March 14, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    Hey. Any thoughts on Limeys strategy for managing the outbreak? Not closing schools for now, not banning gatherings, encouraging herd immunity and whatnot

    It could work, if they are willing to let 200-500k people die from it along the way.

    • P Ray
      March 15, 2020 at 12:27 am

      Definitely would free up a lot of jobs though.
      This virus also has a few good nicknames:
      Corona-chan, Boomer Doomer, Boomer Remover

      A lot of the older generation who talk about being tough unlike the snowflake generation, will have the amazing opportunity to prove it.

      • doldrom
        March 15, 2020 at 7:41 am

        I’m sticking with WuFlu

      • March 16, 2020 at 12:42 pm

  6. Gern Blanderson
    March 15, 2020 at 6:12 am

    The CDC and FDA are feckless and actually tried to cover up the severity of COVID-19 in the first weeks. It was the state and local medical professionals that got the word out. Our federal government is week and only wants to protect itself. In your article you complain about defunding. I say defund them. Most of your arguments about increasing funding for federal government agencies are mis-guided. You should realize by now that it is state and local governments where the real work gets done. Decentralize.

    • Social Observer
      March 15, 2020 at 10:53 am

      Also city and county governments who stepped up to ban large gathers, for example.

    • Social Observer
      March 15, 2020 at 10:55 am

      Notice that local governments have stepped up to make decisions that the Feds won’t.

  7. Social Observer
    March 15, 2020 at 10:53 am

    Boomer here – appalled at the number of people I know who act like nothing is going on, even people with scientific educations.

    E.g., let’s get together for dinner, they say. I feel bad for the small restaurants that are suffering, along with their staffs, but it is hazardous both for me and for others to make unnecessary contact.

  8. Yusef
    March 15, 2020 at 1:32 pm

    Personally, I downplay the severity of the pandemic. I strongly suspect it is being used to divert our attention and distract us from “what’s really going on.”

    Note the stock market dive and correction in the economy as a whole.

    The financial system’s nearly endless “bull market” has had me worried for about ten years. (It is bull, alright.) It has not, during this time, been based on the profits of corporations or the general health of the economy, which have been very poor or nonexistent. Based on fundamentals, the stock market was more severely over-valued than at any other time in history, including 1929 or 1999.

    Ordinarily, no matter what, trends are periodically broken. There should have been breaks now and then, and maybe the most healthy thing would have been for the stock market to go sideways, not up and up.

    I have been asking myself how this will unwind. Whoever is in control– and here I am 100% conspiracy theorist, for I believe we are governed by plutocrats, a basically small number of extraordinarily powerful people– can’t tip their hand to let Americans and others see the extent our economy is no longer market based, or for that matter, capitalistic. (Not that it is socialistic, either, in precise terms.)

    They can’t let people see something is very, very wrong with the system. This suggested to me they would be looking for something extraneous to the system “over which no one had the power to prevent.” This looks to me like what they came up with.

    Of course I personally am not in a position of responsibility and so I don’t need to cover my ass. There is the distinct possibility I’m wrong and if I was in power, that would mean I would be responsible for deaths, and I doubt I would actually risk it. I’m cautious, basically. However, I have watched “code orange” garbage and various attempts by the gov’t to scare the shit out of people grow in importance ever since they scared the shit out of everyone with 9/11 back in 2001. Scare tactics and getting people to act like panicked herd animals are as real and dangerous as viruses. Keep it in mind.

  9. MikeCA
    March 15, 2020 at 2:36 pm

    Conservatives in the Republican party have long desired to reduce the federal governments role in disaster relief. They argue this should be left to the states. So George Bush did not take FEMA seriously and appointed some political hack to run the agency. The result was the Katrina relief disaster after which people started to seriously question Bush’s competence. By the end of his administration with the failure of the Iraq war and the collapse of financial markets, voters valued competence enough to elect the first black president of the US because he was clearly the most competent candidate.

    Trump has tried to downsize the government across the board. His budget proposals have cut funding for the CDC every year, although Congress, even when controlled by Republicans, refused to go along with cutting CDC. Trump did cut funding for CDC’s epidemic prevention activities in foreign countries. The CDC ended activity in 39 out of 49 countries in which it was working. Trump also tried to drastically cut funding to the US Public Health Service Commissioned Corp which is suppose to help prevent the spread of disease. Congress refused to cut the funding, even when Republicans were in complete control of Congress, so the Trump administration simply stopped replacing members that quit or retired.

    It is clear that Trump did not take the threat of COVID-19 seriously. He was far more concerned with the impact it might have on the economy and his re-election prospects than he was on the health of the American people. Trump did not want there to be aggressive testing, because he wanted to minimize the number of confirmed cases in the US. He refused to believe what his top health experts told him might happen or perhaps the aids directly around Trump prevented those experts from telling Trump what he did not want to hear.

    Michael Cohen explained to Congress how the Trump Org works. As an employee you watch the news to see what the story is from Trump and then you just repeat that story even if you know it is completely false. Trump is trying to transform the US government to the same kind of operation. Replace officials all over the government with Trump loyalists who will just repeat whatever lie or misinformation Trump is wants. Government officials who speak the truth are deepstaters trying to undermine Trump. Trump has been able to get away with creating this reality distortion field because Fox News has been willing to repeat the Trump lies and brain wash its viewers who are the Republican base.

    Trump tried to use his fire hose of lies to make the pandemic disappear behind the reality distortion field. This week Fox News realized that those lies were putting the health of the Fox News viewers at risk and started telling the truth about the pandemic.

    Even Newt Gingrich gets it:

    https://www.newsweek.com/newt-gingrich-i-am-italy-amid-coronavirus-crisis-america-must-act-now-act-big-opinion-1492270

    This post is just more propaganda designed to cover up the monumental incompetence of Trump and Republicans.

    • Gern Blandersong
      March 16, 2020 at 9:46 am

      We have bumbling idiots in the federal government and I think this incident shows how incompetent the FDA and CDC are in this environment.

      The good thing is we have state and local leaders who get use twitter, facebook and other communication sources to bypass the corporate media and Washington establishment elites. Decentralization is the best here.

  10. Yusef
    March 15, 2020 at 3:14 pm

    What’s happening now is unprecedented in US history. I’ve never seen anything like it. The country is closing down. There’s some concern we won’t even have food available in the supermarkets.

    I just don’t see how anyone can claim Trump is to blame one way or the other. These decisions to shut down the country are stark and startling. They will have devastating consequences for everyone in America.

    Trump doesn’t have this power and neither does the federal gov’t. This is the shadow government.

    You would just think that if these– the most drastic measures I’ve ever seen taken– ever, for any threat or crisis– are called for, we would have bomb-proof evidence they were necessary because not to take them would be far, far worse. Do we have such evidence, anyone? I am not averse to considering I am not taking the crisis seriously enough, given actual evidence IT IS THIS SERIOUS!

    • MikeCA
      March 15, 2020 at 4:15 pm

      Read what Newt Gingrich has to say:

      https://www.newsweek.com/newt-gingrich-i-am-italy-amid-coronavirus-crisis-america-must-act-now-act-big-opinion-1492270

      If we do nothing hospitals in the US will be overrun in a couple of weeks. There will not be enough ICU beds or ventilators to keep all patients with serious problems breathing alive. Doctors will then be forced to decide which patients to try to keep alive and which ones they just let die. That is what is going on now in Northern Italy.

      “I just don’t see how anyone can claim Trump is to blame one way or the other.”

      Trump is just obviously monumentally incompetent and he cannot hide that behind a blizzard of lies anymore. Why on earth are you defending Trump!

      Yeah, I know, you are a Russian toll whose job it is to defend Trump.

      • Yusef
        March 15, 2020 at 4:28 pm

        I may actually be defending Trump in this one situation.

        Notice you quote an opinion of what may happen if we do nothing. An opinion, moreover, from a man for which I have zero respect for, on any level. Newt Gingrich. (Are you an idiot, MikeCA? Do you think for one minute I am going to be persuaded by such a man? All I am is impressed once again by your gullibility.)

        Trump probably is on his way out, now, Mike. He now faces one of those scenarios he is not going to come out of intact. The economy is going to tank in a way it has never tanked before, ever. Trump is going to be holding the bag and Americans under these circumstances will blame him and “ladies and gentleman, please welcome the new President of the United States, Mr. Joe Biden!”

        I am just a little cynical and despairing here, that no matter how much I dislike and disagree with Mr. Trump, this newest and most emboldened and most thoroughly empowered incarnation of the old plutocratic rule is going to be anything but absolutely godawful and a descent into the nightmare on such an order as to make 2016-2020 seem like “the good old days.”

        I don’t think it is fighting fair to put down the old orange troll in this fashion. I would have loved to see him go in a good clean fight where he was shown for what he was, his policies were exposed for what they were, and he was defeated in a clean and open, democratic election, fair and square.

  11. Yusef
    March 15, 2020 at 4:17 pm

    The outbreak appears to be subsiding in China:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china/some-in-wuhan-told-to-go-back-to-work-as-new-coronavirus-cases-subside-in-china-idUSKBN20Y03W

    Workers in Wuhan are being allowed to go back to work after being in lock down since January.

    (If it is true that the Chinese outbreak is already subsiding, isn’t that an indication of the degree of its severity?)

    Now imagine American workers, not only in one city, but in most of the country, are pushed into lockdown for a similar length of time, 2 to 3 months.

    I say American workers, but the better term is the one AD used, the precariat. The question is how will it play out for the precariat if their income is cut off for that long? They probably have serious problems if their income is cut off for a week. I think it is reasonable to suppose they will be desperate by then, maybe even facing starvation.

    There will be dire consequences for pushing the precariat into desperation, including fatalities due to people committing suicide, overdosing on drugs, murdering, and increases of other crime.

    Someone will step in. Who will that be, under what terms will they be intervening, and why? The goodness of their heart? (Maybe so, but If the plutocrats have goodness of heart, why did they allow and foster the development of this very precariat?) Or to cement their complete command and control of what is already a command and control economy and society.

  12. Yusef
    March 15, 2020 at 4:39 pm

    If anyone knows of a desert island available for the next ten years, please let me know. I’m game. I only need about a half dozen willing senoritas, enough tequila, suntan lotion, and some good fishing tackle.

  13. MikeCA
    March 15, 2020 at 5:42 pm

    “Notice you quote an opinion of what may happen if we do nothing. An opinion, moreover, from a man for which I have zero respect for, on any level. Newt Gingrich. (Are you an idiot, MikeCA? Do you think for one minute I am going to be persuaded by such a man? All I am is impressed once again by your gullibility.)”

    My point was even a idiot like Newt Gingrich has realized that Trump is doing all the wrong things.

    Trump’s approach to the COVID-19 pandemic was to view it primarily as a business and political problem. All his life Trump has been able to skate away from problems with a blizzard of lies, so naturally that was what he tried to do. Minimize testing in the US to keep the number of confirmed cases low. Claim that the disease was no big deal and then hope it just went away like the seasonal flue. The economic shutdown in China would have some impact on the economy, but Trump didn’t want people in the US to panic and make the economic impact worse which would hurt his re-election chances. Trump thought problems with testing in the US would help him, so he made no effort to speed up testing. He turned on his fire hose of lies to try to minimize how serious COVID-19 was. Trump was so focused on the preventing any economic impact on the US that he stopped US health officials from giving real advice on what could happen and how to prepare for it.

    By totally focusing on the economic and political aspects and ignoring the public health aspects, Trump has almost certainly made the economic and political impact worse. When Fox News starts warning viewers of the seriousness of this disease, the reality distortion field that Trump has used to hide his incompetence has collapsed. People are waking up and realizing the government has wasted two months not preparing for the pandemic.

    Nobody blamed George Bush for hurricane Katrina or the damage it did. They blamed Bush for totally botching the relief effort.

    Nobody is blaming Trump for the COVID-19 pandemic. They blame Trump for the totally incompetent response to this public health emergency.

    • Yusef
      March 15, 2020 at 7:53 pm

      “My point was even a idiot like Newt Gingrich has realized that Trump is doing all the wrong things.”

      I’m not really disagreeing with you here or in your first post. Many of the things you said in your first comment are important to the way this is unfolding. What I want to say– and maybe you don’t need to hear this– is it is only in the actuality of a very damaged and hampered CDC and bureaucratic apparatus we are all flying blind. We should be able to trust reputable scientists within the government to tell us precisely what’s going on and what we need to do and what is unpleasant and inconvenient but absolutely necessary and what is overkill and plain hysteria. In turn, these scientists really should have been able to trust they’d have the resources, personnel and everything else they need to collect the data and information they need to render sound scientific judgment. Newt Gingrich had more to do with hampering and dismantling the CDC and the bureaucratic apparatus than Trump, and for him to now step in and pretend he knows best is galling, and maybe a bit frightening, too. He doesn’t know. It occurs to me– and maybe you don’t need to hear this either– Gingrich wouldn’t have a role in this at all if he hadn’t destroyed the institutions of expertise which would know how to handle this. He wouldn’t have the power to resurface and give the impression he knows what’s best. I resent this. He and others have power they wouldn’t otherwise have, and they have it because of their own deliberate actions in the past. To put it simply and bluntly, I can imagine they intended this. Because we don’t and can’t really know the true extent of the danger, we have to trust these assholes. They tell us we need to be very scared, and what are we going to do? If I woke up tomorrow morning and found out the local government was quarantining my town (there has only been one verified case of infection in the whole state) and I would be required to wear protective equipment such as a face mask when I went to the certain places I was now allowed to go, I would comply. It would, however, be blind obedience. I hate blind obedience and I hate being in a situation, in my opinion contrived, and contrived by “heroes” Newt Gingrich and so on, where I am compelled to blind obedience. It damned well better be as bad as you say, MikeCA, because we’re losing our freedom here.

      By the way, I don’t view the damage of Hurricane Katrina as merely that produced by a natural disaster. If the values of this society weren’t hideously damaged, the problems with the diking systems in New Orleans would have been up to the storm. Its severity was overstated. I may be a paranoid person, but the people most ruined were “blacks.” Many of them had been living for generations IN HOUSES THEY OWNED and THAT THEIR CHILDREN WOULD INHERIT. They had a degree of independence and autonomy because of that, and THEY LOST it, for the most part. Again, there is that angle of contrivance to these things I find hard to overlook.

  14. P Ray
    March 16, 2020 at 1:25 am

    Don’t forget the other reason why the pandemic will create economic problems for the US:
    A lot of status is gained by people showing off, and to show off you need an audience.
    Besides the blackpill gaining traction and a shaky job market, a lot of men are realising you can’t even cop a feel nowadays when a woman agrees to go on a date – that you are paying for.
    This means that essentially, she is eating on your dime, the only other thing she gives up is time.
    Oh ya, women will talk about how they take time to dress up, but studies have proven they only dress up for men they are attracted to.

    So these restaurants that are high-priced will see a drop in clientele thanks to the pandemic,
    1)but also men realise that #MeToo will cause them problems,
    2)women are only going to allow Chad to get to first base,
    3)food in restaurants is high-priced,
    4)they filter patrons and only the attractive get to sit out front,
    5)ingredients may be adulterated or counterfeit,
    6)the atmosphere sure as hell won’t be welcoming
    7)there’s no need for waitresses to be nice as they now can be e-thots

    I figure the the majority of people in paid work that are going to be spared are food delivery riders, fiverr workers, morticians, home repairs and chemists (who make their own hand sanitizer and sell)

  15. Yusef
    March 16, 2020 at 11:28 am

    I hope people will take a look at this:

    https://www.unz.com/rpaul/the-coronavirus-hoax/

    This view is very similar to my own.

    It really is unclear whether we are more endangered by the virus or a runaway governmental authority. We could be on the verge of totalitarianism for all we know.

    Ron Paul is a former medical doctor.

    • MikeCA
      March 16, 2020 at 3:09 pm

      You have to realize that Ron Paul believes that the Federal government’s only functions should be national defense, law enforcement and the courts. He favors abolishing agencies like the CDC. The CDC is not mentioned in the constitution or the Federalist papers, so he believes it is unconstitutional for Congress to spend money on it.

      Did I mention he wants to abolish the Federal Reserve, go back to the gold standard and also believes that secession by states should be allowed as a check on the Federal government.

      This is as bad as the left wing nuts that are saying Trump deliberately let the pandemic get out of control in the US so he can declare martial law and cancel the next election.

      • Yusef
        March 16, 2020 at 4:34 pm

        Ron Paul supported the legalization of cannabis for medical and recreational purposes.

        Legislation he cosponsored included the States’ Rights to Medical Marijuana Act, the Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act of 2008, and the Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act, to remove cannabis from the Controlled Substances Act.

    • Plaque Doctor
      March 16, 2020 at 5:42 pm

      Oh Hai Yusef,

      I am glad to see a fellow Unz reader here. It was my gateway into white nationalism. Steve Sailer y’all…

      So, um, that little comment above about the señoritas, I hope that was “tough guy” talk and you are ready to embrace the beauty of the white man…

      I’m sure you accidentally stumbled onto “mens rights” when you were really looking for this…

      https://www.amazon.com/Doc-Johnson-7037-01-BX-The-Mangina/dp/B017A9NQBI

      But you don’t need that when you can take my mangina you alpha male you…

      Anti-Natalist for the win!!!

      • Jack Donovan
        March 16, 2020 at 5:44 pm

        Plaquey, how cum you bogart all the white guys? Share. Remember how I shared my aids fr your hepatitis whilst we whispered sweet mothers in each others ears?

      • Yusef
        March 16, 2020 at 8:59 pm

        Thanks friend. I’m so black I can love you. When MikeCA were inside, and the Aryan Brotherhood were pushing for him and I stepped back, knowing partially this was what he wanted, and partially what I wanted, I had their word they would spare his life. I needed his life. Come on, his father was a minister. I loved any priest who was also a drunk. If we’re in trouble here, and we are, but no more than what we’ve subjected to…… I’m going to pray along with his father. I don’t know why, but I love big tits, fat ass, and toughness.

      • Plaque Doctor
        March 17, 2020 at 10:27 am

        Oh Yusef, my sweet sweet studdmuffin,

        I am not like other white nationalists, more like a male feminist but gender is a social konstukwt, donchya know…

        Here what I look like…

        https://images.app.goo.gl/Sm9CFMUCXbxzQvu68

        I hope you like you manboobs extra large and the booty unwiped. My mangina is all lubed for you with that coronavirus diarrea mixed with taco bell bean burritos. You will think you are with an actual señorita, except I am WHITE, gosh darnit….

        Bring MikeCA too, just, uh, keep it on the downlow….

      • Yusef
        March 17, 2020 at 12:42 pm

        No I hate man boobs. Drop and give me fifty. Then we’ll work that fat ass off with as many laps as you can give. (Don’t want a heart attack on my conscience.)

        I’ll send MikeCA first.

        If I’m not there in five minutes, you guys start without me.

      • Plaque Doctor
        March 17, 2020 at 9:49 pm

        Oh Yusef,

        playin’ hard to get you little minx you. You are famous, or is it infamous for chubby chasin’ Ferdinad Bardimu’s mangina. If you can give him the baby batter, you can gimme gimme gimme it tooo…

        https://images.app.goo.gl/jQFTA5pDZnTEf23k9

      • Plaque Doctor
        March 17, 2020 at 9:54 pm

        …and this will be our song to eff tooo…

        …not the horrid rollins version you made your skin chaff to whilst looking at your dad’s musty playboys from the 1980’s….

  16. March 17, 2020 at 3:40 pm

  17. March 17, 2020 at 4:53 pm

    The number of respiratory deaths in 2016 world wide was about 3 million. The 7500 deaths due to COVID 19 is infinitesimal compared to the typical annual total. If COVID 19 is as devastating as presstitutes and political whores want you to think, then why hasn’t it really been that devastating? They claim it is extremely contagious, yet it has been in the human population since before November 17, 2019 which is when the first document death was logged. Being a respiratory virus (like about 100 other viruses) it certainly is contagious. Like all other such viruses it is “new” because each season all are “new”. this is why the flu vaccine is remade every season (ever notice how that gets fucked up from time to time and they “miss” it?) Being as contagious as it is and having been introduced into the human population 4 months ago minimum and considering global travels, this explains why a 97 year old in Matagorda County Texas died with it (not necessarily of it) recently.

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/bay-city-funeral-director-die-coronavirus-tx-first-15138070.php

    Matagorda County Texas is not exactly the most cosmopolitan area in USA. It is not as remote as the mid Sahara but certainly not as exposed to virus spread as, like say, all airports that have been congested with travelers from all over going home because every college has closed, all grocery stores in major cities where hordes of people have been stocking up, all college campuses being visited and congested with people from all over who are retrieving students, and numerous other places where various people from various places are collecting and congesting only to disperse themselves into quarantine locations with family and friends they haven’t been around before the quarantine hysteria… with or without this extremely contagious virus, which some carry without symptoms and never get symptoms…

    And although the virus is very contagious and been in the human population for months even though “China didn’t tell us because they want us to die” and the average incubation period is now apparently thought to be only 5 days…… only 7,500 worldwide have died of it. Total global mortality due to all lower (the ones that can kill you) respiratory infections ranges from 2.8 to over 4.0 million, and averages about 3.5 million. 7,500 is only 0.0214% of one percent of the typical total global deaths due to all lower respiratory infections annually. Yes, that’s right COVID 19 has so far caused only two one hundredths of one percent of the typical total annual deaths due to respiratory infection globally. This is virtually no increase unless you think that two one hundredths of one percent is significant and you know for certain that the two one hundredths of one percent is actually an increase and not a substitution of last years strain of the same virus. And there is no evidence that the total annual deaths due to respiratory infections will be any higher than normal for the 2019 – 2020 season. In fact the numbers indicate the season will render the typical range. Being so contagious, it certainly would have caused far more death by now than it has if it were as dangerous as all this hyperbolic gaslighting hysterical gaggle of gossip quarantine bullshit warranted.

    But the fact is it has NOT caused so much death and we do NOT know for a fact that it isn’t just a typical virus among about 100 or so viruses that has always been around and changed its RNA a bit as they all do consistently each season or so. We do know the vast majority of people who get sick with any respiratory virus are prescribed antibiotics for secondary bacterial infections and whatever virus they have isn’t tested for or never go the the doctor at all. We also know for a fact that average adults in USA get infected with respiratory viruses 2-3 times a year, children more. We also know for a fact that it has been out (which really means identified and assigned a label regardless if it has always been around) long enough to spread and kill many long before, but it has not. Yet now we are all supposed to stop going to restaurants, ball games, schools, etc.

    http://www.city-data.com/blog/7001-heart-disease-in-the-u-s/

  18. March 17, 2020 at 5:06 pm

    The hysterical gaslighting hyperbolic bullshit is not a CONservative problem or a LIEberal problem or a deep state conspiracy. It is a manifestation of a quirk of human nature. The same quirk is why apocalyptical and dystopian movies rake in millions, why humans (like no other animal) run to a fire instead of from it, why people still like to look at pictures of Hiroshima, Nagasaki and the burning of the Hindenburg. CONservatives, LIEberals and deep state conspiracy theories are manifestations of the same.

    • GAYNIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE
    • GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE
      March 18, 2020 at 2:21 am

      • Yusef
        March 19, 2020 at 8:48 am

        I hope if Mike is out there he’ll take the time to consider what this guy is saying.

        That comment about the CDC being corrupt, with a revolving door to pharma, is true. I’d like to point out it is along these lines Ron Paul has criticized the FDA and other government agencies involved in health care.

        Paul’s arguments are not wacked out and wanked off extremism. That’s the impression given to the public by the mind-control masters who feed the Demo-bots, but it is not a faithful representation of what’s been said.

    • Yusef
      March 18, 2020 at 9:19 am

      I don’t know about it being a manifestation of human nature. Take the “swine flu epidemic” of the seventies. (Your above-posted video provides the information.) Here was a concerted effort by the federal government, with the President the leading spokesman, to get people in a panic, and it fell right on its face. The American public didn’t buy in. There was a widespread and well-publicized vaccination program put in place and most people didn’t bother.

      The American people are not the same in 2020 as they were in 1976. They stampede. They distrust their own reason more than they distrust the government. Many do not distrust the government at all and simply believe what they are told, do what they are told to do. They fall into line like little mind-controlled robots. They do not think for themselves. Their involvement is not with other people in their community but with mass media as if they care for mass mediated “images” more than flesh and blood. Sure, back in 1976 people listened to radio, watched TV, and so on, but not with the intensity of people wrapped up in the cell phone. There wasn’t the homogeneity in radio and TV there is now, either. There wasn’t monopoly ownership of mass media then and the complete control of “the message”.

      As to the internet balancing these last observations, I get pop-ups requesting to give me the latest info on the virus, and other feed comes in without me seeking it out. This is powerful stuff.

      The crucial change was in 2001. There wasn’t healthy skepticism about what was going down until it was far too late. The plutocrats saw they could control us at will, that their conditioning of populations was working.

      Thanks for the video link and excellent summaries.

  19. Jack Sparrow
    March 19, 2020 at 10:56 pm

    Some decent analysis here of the problem, however, it wasn’t “insurance” companies that were a hindrance to testing. It was the government’s CDC & FDA that prevented the PRIVATE companies (who has testing kits ready to deploy) from administering the testing kits. How do you expect Medicare for All to work, when you can’t have a competent government entity that can even approve testing kits? Furthermore, Italy, that has a single-payer healthcare system is unable to deal with the severity of the virus. Lastly, how does Medicare For All work when you don’t even manufacture your own ventilators, masks, and medicine during a pandemic?

  1. March 18, 2020 at 10:58 pm

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