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Response to COVID-19 Will Destroy Democratic Party in 2020 Elections

I was going to post an article about the stupid western LIEbral reaction to use of Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-2 disease in its initial stages. FYI- there is a rapidly increasing amount of evidence from different parts of the world that standard dosages of both drugs started within first few days of symptomatic SARS-2 illness do significantly reduce (by about 4-5 times) the risk of hospitalization in its later stages. This is a big deal, as the percentage of older people who die after becoming sick enough to be hospitalized is much higher than those below 65. While writing that article, which will be hopefully post next, I had an interesting epiphany. In its briefest form, it is as follows: the reactions (and in cases, the lack thereof) by establishment LIEbrals to the economic crisis created by current dumb and ineffectual measures deployed to contain this coronavirus pandemic will likely sink the democratic party during 2020 elections.

While this particular take on what is clearly a rapidly evolving and multifactorial crisis might seem premature, especially since the election is almost 6 months away- my analysis is based on solid factors which most LIEbrals are ignoring at their own peril. I am sure some of the more ardent worshipers of LIEbralism (MikeCA?) would like to tell me how the republican party will suffer the biggest electoral losses in generations since Trump (and by association, that party) botched the initial response to this pandemic. To which I say.. sure, Trump and the republican party certainly botched the initial response to this pandemic and ensuing crisis- but so did every other major western country (from UK and France to Italy and Spain). But let us be honest about something, we have already passed the point where the initial botched response still matters to most people. What matters now is how the political parties in power in those countries deal with the massive economic fallout caused by measures instituted to allegedly contain this pandemic.

Some of you might say.. isn’t the mortality due to this pandemic still the biggest cause for concern. Well.. based on a preponderance of evidence, it is not and let me explain how I reached that conclusion. A number of recent population studies which look for specific antibodies generated in response to SARS-2 infection seem to strongly suggest that the percentage of population who were exposed to this infection and went on to develop an asymptomatic (or mildly symptomatic) form is about 10-50 times higher than the cases who were ill enough to be tested by the PCR tests used for detecting viral RNA. In other words, rate of functionally asymptomatic infections for SARS-2 is at least 10 fold higher than previously thought- especially in otherwise healthy people below 60. While there is no shortage of doomers pretending to be “statisticians” who want to tell you that all that data is somehow wrong, the number of studies from different countries (using different test kits) which support the high rates of asymptomatic infection is now so high that a non-biased person would have to admit that it is true.

So why does this matter? Well.. it immediately changes the Case Fatality Rate (CFR) of SARS-2 from 1-3% in countries with extensive PCR-based testing to lower than 0.3-0.1% or even lower for those under 65. While a CFR of about 0.2% is higher than most yearly influenza epidemics, it is in the range of major influenza pandemics such as the one in 1957-1958. That pandemic killed about 100k people in USA when its population was almost half of what it is today. At that time it was seen as an unfortunate, but still acceptable, body count and things improved quickly once it was over. My point is that, heartless as it might seem, a body count of 200k (mostly old people) is not going to have a long-term adverse effect on this country. However a prolonged shutdown which creates 30-40% unemployment rates on top of massive number of business failures is going to cause far more problems that burying or burning the corpses of 200k mostly very old (and white) dead people. And yes, I have factored in the differences in rates of death by race as well as the percentage of each group in population.

But what does any of this have to do with why the official response to this pandemic will likely destroy the democratic party in 2020 elections. To better understand what I am going to talk about, let us first spell out a few obvious facts. Firstly, elections will occur in early November 2020, when the economic impact of the shutdown due to official government response will be a far bigger issue than the number of old dead people. As a consequence, the way both parties respond over next few months to the growing economic disaster will be far more relevant than it is right now. But.. wouldn’t that favor the democrats, since they are allegedly the working class party? Well, in case you haven’t been reading what I have been writing for last few years- the democratic party became the party of credentialed suburbanites + professionals a long time ago. Sure.. some black people vote for them- but that is largely due to historical affiliations among older black people. Neither the democratic party, or its republican equivalent, cares about black people or most white people for that matter.

So what have the democrats have been doing so far?

1] It is no secret that democrats haven’t been doing much, if anything, to help the working class they claim to represent. Most of the two-something trillion dollars in first bailout bill has gone to large business pretending to be small ones. In fact, republican dipshits such as Marco Rubio and Josh Hawley are the reason why it even contains a provision to bail out small business. But it gets worse.. democrats did not seriously try to pass a 2k/month universal unemployment provision in that bill. That number is important because every west-European country, Canada, Australia etc made sure that even their gig and contract workers could easily get at least 2k/ month in addition to generous (75-80%) support for both large and small business to keep their employees on payroll. Now LIEbrals (like MikeCA?) might say that such a measure would not have passed in the senate. Well.. they never tried seriously, so we don’t know. But even if it hadn’t passed, trying hard to pass it would have shown potential voters that the party cared about them- especially important in a presidential election year.

Instead democrats are totally banking on Trump screwing up the response to this pandemic. Yes.. you heard that right. Thy have no other plan to win the 2020 elections other than hope and pray that Orange Man fucks up so badly that people will just vote for their dementia patient aka Joe Biden. To make matters even worse, if that is possible, their response to the crisis has been either cringeworthy or downright repulsive. Some of you might have seen Nancy Pelsoi displaying the expensive contents of her super-expensive refrigerators on national TV at a time when about half the country don’t know whether they can afford food within few weeks and food banks in many cities have been swamped by tens of thousands who had never used such services in the past. Or look at that stupid cunt who is the current governor of Michigan acting like an out-of touch autocrat or the governor of Virgina using this opportunity to push through ‘gun control’ legislation. It is as if democrats at both the national and state level are completely out of touch with the needs and demands of their supposed constituencies.

2] Many of you might have also seen the decrepit MSM giving tons to air time to Andrew Cuomo and to a lesser extent- Gavin Newsom. They are doing so to project both of them, especially the former, as future potential presidential candidates. The only problem is that they are both very mediocre and borderline incompetent leaders with serious electability issues at national level. Don’t believe me? Let us go through their records. Cuomo is a part of a political dynasty which benefited from being in the 2nd most openly corrupt state in USA- after neighboring New Jersey. Andrew’s biggest achievement has been his full throated support for neoliberalism and working with the republican party to keep in his state to maintain that status quo. Did I mention NY is one the most unequal states in this country. As far as his supposed ability to contain this pandemic.. well, it was Cuomo (who against the better judgement of Bill de Blasio) delayed any serious response to the pandemic in NY state by about 2-3 weeks. Under Cuomo, NY reduced its hospital bed count by over 20k in the last few years to build luxury condos and now he also cut Medicaid funding in the most recent state budget.

Gavin Newsom, while not as venally corrupt as Cuomo, is nonetheless a highly problematic potential democratic party leader at national level. From his support of severe ‘gun control’, SJW causes such as trangenderism to being ineffectual at actually solving real problems such as very high levels of homelessness and economic inequality in that state. At best he is a neoliberal who is not as bad as Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden, assuming the later still knows who he is. But the much bigger problem, as far as 2020 elections are concerned, is how they are acting right now. See.. both are trying to position themselves as ‘resistance’ to Trump, which means opposing everything put forth by Trump- irrespective of the merit of each idea. That is why both are opposed to any concrete and defined plan for reopening the economy in their states. But why would this matter? Well.. because other states, especially those run by republican governors will reopen sooner and while they may initially suffer from outbreaks of SARS-2, their economies won’t be as thoroughly trashed as those of NY and CA. And this will matter come election time.

As I have repeatedly mentioned in my previous posts on this general topic, USA has neither the bureaucratic framework or ideological bent to quickly provide effective levels of financial help to its citizens in times of crisis. Consequently, this shutdown is going to an incredible amount of socio-economic damage to everyone in this country who is not rich, well connected or has a sinecured job. Sure, some will be hurt more than others but even most doctors are seeing their income plummet because of the cancellation of scheduled surgeries, normal medical procedures and reduction in appointments. The same is true for supposedly resilient entities such as universities, municipalities and many more. Even if the government decides to bail them out, under the present set of rules, most of the money will not reach the people it was intended to help (employees, contractors, small business dependent on them etc). In other words, a prolonged shutdown will cause exponentially increasing amounts of damage to economy and those states which are closed for a longer time (to show their resistance to Trump) will inflict the most suffering on their residents. And this will be weaponized by Trump reelection campaign.

3] Talking about the ‘resistance’.. it is an open secret that corporate media and democrats want Trump to fail. To be clear, I am not suggesting Trump is competent- but then again, there is no evidence that his predecessors were any better than him. Sure, they were somewhat “better spoken” in public, but their policies were just as neoliberal, poorly thought out and shitty as his. You might have seen these ‘resistance’ bullshitters convert each press briefing into an adversarial nightmare and constantly question his actions. The problem with such behavior is that it highly counterproductive. Because the corporate media is so openly adversarial to Trump, he can claim false persecution and thus divert attention from this many actions which are actually stupid and shitty. There is a reason why “RussiaGate”, “Mueller Report”, “UkraineGate”, “impeachment” and now this crisis has not had any impact on his popularity. The relentless but totally ineffectual media attacks on Trump are, ironically, what keep his popularity from going down.

It does not help that all the losers clamoring for prolonged shutdowns in media, and on social media, are limo LIEbrals who have enough money and other resources to weather them. These dumbfucks have little, to no, connection or understanding of how the majority of people make a living. This position is going to become increasingly problematic as more and more evidence from other countries will show that specific antibodies to this virus in asymptomatic people (evidence of exposure and recovery) are far more widespread than currently believed- which implies that CFR is significantly less that 1-1.5%. At that point, I predict that these resistance dummies will try to sabotage testing of people for antibodies or claim that “antibodies in recovered patients do not offer protection” because they want to prolong shutdown and cause more economic damage to make Trump lose is reelection bid. Needless to say, such behavior is only going to make Trump and the republicans look like the better option in November for most of the country.

In summary, the reaction of establishment LIEbrals and corporate media to this pandemic is very likely to severely damage the electoral prospects of democratic party in the 2020 elections.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. Gordonsson
    April 20, 2020 at 2:50 pm

    Apologies in advance for a bit of a thread de-rail.

    Could be worth keeping an eye on how Sweden does with its looser approach.
    If it works, this whole thing will likely be regarded by future historians as a mass hysteria on a planetary scale.

    Was wondering about the numbers/rates of asymptomatics.

    Given where I was over mid Feb to mid March (Hong Kong transit, ski resorts, bars, trains, subways, er..’cultural’ establishments in Austria, planes and Dubai transit with nil personal spacing), there was a smallish but real chance of exposure in that time if the real rate of infection was 10-50 x as large as that from the officially confirmed case numbers at the time.

    Observed no personal covid symptoms at any time during the trip or after return to NZ (mid-March), but have no way of knowing of asymptomatic infection (hence a degree of immunity), as only symptomatics are tested and then only for virus (a snapshot), not for antibodies (gives a history of sorts).

    As far as known (if anyone knows better please correct this), antibody testing in NZ for general overall infection rates or even for returnees and at risk groups has not even been mentioned.

    The authorities are talking about covid elimination here, but if the hard lock-down is successful, then what? We will have preserved population vulnerability to the virus and will be waiting on development of a vaccine.
    That might have all the success of waiting on fusion power to solve our energy/carbon issues.

    • Yusef
      April 20, 2020 at 3:28 pm

      “The authorities are talking about covid elimination here, but if the hard lock-down is successful, then what? We will have preserved population vulnerability to the virus and will be waiting on development of a vaccine.”

      It is even worse than this. The lock-downs,severe as they are, are not and cannot be successful for the “elimination” of the virus. That’s likely impossible anyway. What the lock downs do are: 1) Prevent individual immunity from being obtained; 2) Delay herd immunity, too, and it is by attainment of herd immunity the virus is controlled. In order to work, the lock down would have had to last for 12 to 18 months, until the vaccine is ready and emerging populations can be vaccinated. Of course that’s impossible, though when I was listening to a Bill Gates interview recently, he seemed to be advocating that! Another rat in the woodpile is that the vaccine is not guaranteed to be effective. Seasonal flu vaccines often aren’t. The situation is absolutely incredible. The elites not only don’t care much about us, they apparently want us dead.

    • doldrom
      April 20, 2020 at 11:03 pm

      Not just Sweden. In every jurisdiction the curve bends before measures could take effect (the measures target infection, which typically precedes testing by 5 (incubation) + 7 (symptoms gradually get worse) = 12 days. Besides, the curve bends gradually, whereas the measures are instantaneous, so you expect something of a step. You can test the hypothesis itself by finding the straight part of the mild logistical S curve (in world-o-meter), or for that matter the linear trend, putting a straight edge to it, and seeing if the kink precedes the day measures were instituted.
      Something else is gradually bending the curve. A likely candidate is silent transmission (we know the thing is highly contagious, Los Alamos has earlier and recently modelled at R₀=5.7). Could be enough asymptomatic or subclinical infections (+ naturally insusceptible) to dampen transmission spread.

      • Yusef
        April 21, 2020 at 10:07 am

        It is reported the WHO is pressuring Sweden to fall in line with the rest of the world, and I could well believe these reports are true.

        Many people are now watching the situation in Sweden and those who have spread panic salivate at the idea it is just a matter of time before that ole’ coming “exponential growth” the postulation of which justified the label pandemic in the first place, takes its toll.

        So far, no such thing. If Sweden continues its current course and exponential growth doesn’t severely punish the country for it, the world is going to see it has been hoaxed into unnecessary catastrophe. The world’s leadership and especially the WHO might get called onto the carpet.

        Boy, this has been the worst thing I have ever seen. Imagine this! The entire world gets convinced to shut down its economies for something which may happen based on the words of people whose expertise, impartiality, and objectivity are suspect, to say the least. (Bill Gates, man, Bill Gates.)

        The world has gone mad.

        When an individual goes mad and wanders around doing crazy and self destructive things, that’s not so bad if there are others around to keep an eye out and intervene if necessary. When the world goes mad, there aren’t any other worlds hanging around to lend a helping hand and assistance. If the world decides the best thing now is to nuke itself to get rid of the plague, well, by golly,…….

  2. Yusef
    April 20, 2020 at 3:18 pm

    “But let us be honest about something, we have already passed the point where the initial botched response still matters to most people. What matters now is how the political parties in power in those countries deal with the massive economic fallout caused by measures instituted to allegedly contain this pandemic.’

    I entirely agree.

    What I wonder about, though, is whether in November people will remember Trump listened to Fauci, a member of the Trump cabinet, and after a short delay supported the drastic shut down and other measures Fauci recommended. Why wouldn’t Trump be blamed for the economic fallout resulting (from his policy, because it is his policy)? If he had gone to the mat for his original reasonable “the cure is worse than the disease” stance, it might be different (in my mind). The buck does stop at the President’s desk, and there’s a big buck coming for what Trump has done. Also, the “bailout” bill, while nearly unanimously supported by demo-Rats, ultimately remains Trump’s. I mean, the average guy, even if he misses the relevance of the enormous amounts going to banks and big business, is smart enough to know what he’s going to get is not enough– not nearly enough. And by the way: where is that check, anyway? When does it arrive? By some reports, not for another four or five months. Imagine that. Again my point: the demoRats have not stood up for their constituency AT ALL, but it is the Trump adminstration’s responsibility, all said and done.

  3. Yusef
    April 20, 2020 at 3:37 pm

    Elections are a charade anyway.

    Seven months from now will the elites need or want to stage them?

    I think we’re living under a new political regime now– democracy and democratic charades–that kind of mind control– is obsolete.

    If I’ve been wrong and the masses do get violent, they’re not going to be very concerned about the political processes which have so thoroughly failed them, are they?

    • Jack Donovan
      April 20, 2020 at 5:33 pm

      Oh hai yusef,

      I think we should purtent to be manly men and go work in da oil fields, just like Matt Horney claimed too do…

      https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/20/oil-companies-trump-administration-paralyzed-196473

      Oh, maybe not, but at least we can buy our anal lube real cheap, hehehehe….

      • Yusef
        April 20, 2020 at 9:11 pm

        Doesn’t look like work will be available in the oil fields any time soon. The oil companies are going to deal with oversupply and lack of demand by shutting things down. They aren’t drilling or producing in many places already. Plus, a lot of these guys are going to go bankrupt. Strange days have found us. But it is terrific to see Trump in there doing the best he can to support them. (Exxon has been the most profitable company in the history of capitalism, bar none.)

        After all, what’s good for Big Oil is good for us, and that’s indisputable. The last forty years have taught us this, if nothing else.

    • Jack Donovan
      April 20, 2020 at 9:31 pm

      “After all, what’s good for Big Oil is good for us, and that’s indisputable. The last forty years have taught us this, if nothing else.”

      My sweet, nasty yusuf. I cannot tell when you are being serious or sarcastic, I only know you love the white and as only you can.

      Here is our love song:

      My herpes and aids for your ‘rona and syphilis…

      • Yusef
        April 21, 2020 at 10:37 am

        I have to assume you aren’t serious about 99% of the time. I couldn’t stomach it otherwise. Gross, man, gross!

      • Jack Donovan
        April 21, 2020 at 11:36 am

        Oh hai yusef,

        why do you play hard to get?

        “ASSume the position I love…”

        Just remember, white nationalism without love of the white man is merely mean spirited racism. Butt with our anal lust, it is now a fetish and we have the “moral outrage” of the SJW’s. we can win this oppression olympics.

  4. MikeCaCa
    April 20, 2020 at 4:40 pm

    Well, look at you crybabies.

    I got much $100k business loan which will be 100% forgiven and you will pay the taxes on it. Yup, I am paying myself a salary to sit on home and write “code” in Fortran whilst in my crusty undies.

    Gavin knows how to give us wealthy (an lazy) white guys free money without making it look like a handout.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/the-small-business-loan-programs-big-problems-explained.html

  5. GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE
    April 20, 2020 at 5:38 pm

    AD wasn’t smart enough to think this up, neither was Trumpet…

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/20/trump-could-make-crashing-oil-prices-win-american-taxpayers-heres-how/

    But nice to see Biden making white supremancist, ur, I mean waycist ads…

  6. April 20, 2020 at 7:08 pm

    From the beginning, it has been blatantly self evident that LIEberals and MSM have done NOTHING with the pandemic other than use it as a political tool against Trump. Take Cuomo for instance, first he used it against Trump to help promote the idea that Trump is racist because Trump banned travel from China. Then, after NY began to experience a disproportionate number of infections he tried blaming the federal government and Trump for not doing enough. Cuomo significantly contributes to the problem, then attempts to shift blame. Typical politician, typical politics, but this has become the primary, and at least for the time being, the ONLY modus operandi of democrats. Virtually everything they are doing regarding SARS-2 is purely political. Who does that? It is a pandemic, and regardless of how many it kills or not, this is the stupidest strategy any politician or political party can employ with any crisis. Granted, more SUBTLE political gaslighting, framing and what not could be effective politically if done measured along with some actual effective action to deal with the crisis. But the democrats are not in the least subtle about what they are doing and are offering no real solutions. The ONLY to solution to everything in their play book is frame Trump, get Trump, attack orange man. No matter what the crisis, no matter what the desire for improvement to anything, EVERY solution, every plan to move forward… is attack Trump with loaded questions, insinuations, innuendos and in some cases outright lies, everyone with any intelligence at all sees through this.

    • Yusef
      April 20, 2020 at 8:02 pm

      It is little commented how in the lead up to the pandemic in the US, the democrats had us focus on their idiotic impeachment proceedings against Trump. If instead they had begun to raise awareness of what might happen to us if we were unprepared and helped the country become ready as quickly and completely as possible, they could campaign as heroes this fall. Apparently some had foreknowledge, too. What was that story of the congreasemen who used the knowledge to sell stocks at the height? “Who does that?” What kind of people let them get away with this stuff time and time again rather than hang’in ’em high?

      • doldrom
        April 21, 2020 at 11:15 am

        Yes. That and moan about how any measures (travel, etc) were racist, Trump being a dictator and unconstitutional, go out and act normal, show your social virtue cred. Use the subway, by all means.

  7. doldrom
    April 20, 2020 at 11:06 pm

    If Trump was really playing 3D chess, he would throw some basic truths in there among the exaggerations and banalities. If he can get the Dems to rails against enough obvious truths, he can get them to be digging their own graves.

    • Yusef
      April 21, 2020 at 10:47 am

      If Trump was playing 3D chess and he cared for anyone but himself, he would unburden himself of any consideration but of how to get us out of this mess. If he could and would do that, I’d vote for him myself. Getting elected would take care of itself and his legacy as a great American would be assured.

  8. Yusef
    April 21, 2020 at 10:23 am

    “What matters now is how the political parties in power in those countries deal with the massive economic fallout caused by measures instituted to allegedly contain this pandemic.”

    I would be interested to see your ideas about how any political party in any country anywhere even could “deal with the massive economic fallout.” I mean, realistically, what are their options? My emphasis is on the word realistically. (It is too easy to drift into wishful thinking when confronting this question.)

    The thing is either going to drift into chaos on a scale and intensity never seen in modern times (if ever) in which case political parties and elections are no longer relevant or possible, or there is some kind of totalitarian structure already constructed, held in reserve, and awaiting the propitious moment for release.

    The existence of a third element of sane, capable, and sufficiently influential men and women spontaneously rising up to take command isn’t out of the question. Kind of like the peoples’ cavalry riding into the rescue. Or the Maccabees charging down from the mountains to take control of Judea. I give you odds of 1:1000, minimum bet $1,000.

    • MikeCaCa
      April 21, 2020 at 11:26 am

      Oh, so now you are spending your stimulus check on gambling. I thought you’s was gonna spend it on coke and hookers….

  9. GAY NIGGEWRS FROM OUTER SPACE
    April 21, 2020 at 12:32 pm

    I, uh, noticed how this “genius” Dissident right “artiste” carefully monitors our comments at this very blog, then makes “art.”

  10. MikeCA
    April 21, 2020 at 11:26 pm

    Serious question: is this post satire?

    Feel free to counter my argument. That is what the comment section is for..

    • Yusef
      April 22, 2020 at 10:40 am

      Are you a satire?

      Whatever.

      I say we go easy on old Mike. There’s a culling event going on and he hasn’t got long. He just doesn’t have what it takes to make the cut. He probably thinks he’s going down with the ship but in reality the crew he trusts is throwing him overboard.

      • Jack Donovan
        April 22, 2020 at 10:47 am

        Oh hai yusef,

        you resist my advances but run over to creepy mikey.

        do you have a”daddy” fetish?

        We can rock this song while you wreck some rectum, wolves of vineland style…

    • Yusef
      April 23, 2020 at 11:23 am

      “Feel free to counter my argument. That is what the comment section is for..”

      MikeCA is a drive-by shooter.

      Even if he did comment, it would only be to say the dems are doing the best they can in a situation where they are overpowered, and what’s more, Trump is much, much,much WORSE.

      You know, in the joint MikeCA was a stoolie. If I was you I’d take a tip and realize he’s turned you in. He can do that and feel completely good about it because he sees anyone who disagrees with him for whatever reason as a spreader of Fake News, disinformation, and in this situation that means a menace to public health and therefore a murderer and terrorist.

      Take a special moment, as I am, to enjoy these last opportunities to speak as we have. I hope you do know if we were Chinese, we would have been stopped long ago.

    • MikeCaCa
      April 23, 2020 at 3:56 pm

      Who is this imposter, I am the real Mike CaCa…

      I’ve pulled myself up by the bootstraps….

      https://images.app.goo.gl/EneUJ7sDG3TZvQvWA

      nah nah nah na boo boo

  11. MikeCaCa
    April 22, 2020 at 10:38 am

    Oh, look at this incel, he is against our corporate bailouts…

    Remember guys, vote Joe !!!

    I don’t care if you have to run out and catch corona, just do it !!!

    • Yusef
      April 23, 2020 at 11:15 am

      His comments about a missing step two in the Corona “stimulus” measures is interesting. (The step of creating infrastructure to make the exit from quarantine safe and to prevent further rounds of infection.)

      The omission of a step two is glaringly obvious to anyone paying attention, but apparently a lot of people are not paying attention. If they were, the omission would be receiving more comment and controversy. (By the way, Mr. MikeCA, if you are out there lurking, why aren’t the demoRats commenting on this obvious weakness of the Trump administration’s planning? Wouldn’t criticism here not only be good for the nation, but also a great way for the demoRats to score big points? Big points counting big time in November?)

      The real question, to my mind, is whether there is or is not a step two, very well funded and prepared in advance for the right moment of public weakness and confusion.

      I think there is, and AD thinks there isn’t. He doesn’t think the elites are that well put together, and I think they are. Who knows? There is some evidence out there pointing to the elites being very capable in the pursuit of their own diabolical interests. (The public often gets the impression the elites are stupid when the public assumes the catastrophic messes the elites create in terms of the public’s interest are evidence of elite incompetence. But in these cases the elites desire catastrophic messes or they just don’t care.)

  12. Yusef
    April 22, 2020 at 6:02 pm

    The totalitarian structure waiting in the wings for implementation may look like this,

    https://www.unz.com/wwebb/techno-tyranny-how-the-us-national-security-state-is-using-coronavirus-to-fulfill-an-orwellian-vision/

    This isn’t misinformation: these programs exist and the quotes are real quotes from real gov’t officials. None of that proves they are for fulfilling an orwellian vision, exactly, nor that there is any substantive link between these programs and the pandemic, but I personally am not willing to overlook such conjecture.

    • Jack Donovan
      April 23, 2020 at 3:51 pm

      oh hai yusef,

      I noticed you are playin’ hard ta get. You are using that last minute resistance that roost 5 talks about and we here at the wolves of vineland use copious amounts of liquor to disarm…

      Now, I have a proposition for ya since you are a reader of the fine unz site which features white genius extraordinary Steve Sailer.

      I’ll give ya my hep and aids for your covid and pneumonia…

      We then go ll porch pirate and steal some amazon packages. Then we say they are for the jewish convalescent home and we cough on everyone while dropping ’em off…

      We will be just like that Cuomo dude…

      https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/cuomo-coronavirus-nursing-home-policy-proves-tragic-goodwin/

      If you won’t do it for the white race, do it for the gay butsecs…

  13. MikeCA
    April 24, 2020 at 12:13 am

    This whole post is just total BS.

    ” It is no secret that democrats haven’t been doing much, if anything, to help the working class they claim to represent”

    Wrong. It is Republicans who are not doing anything for the working class. Republicans just want a huge bail out for corporations and a one time payment to everyone. Democrats forced them to add $600 per week to the state unemployment compensation as well as a one time payment.

    “Many of you might have also seen the decrepit MSM giving tons to air time to Andrew Cuomo and to a lesser extent- Gavin Newsom. They are doing so to project both of them, especially the former, as future potential presidential candidates.”

    The MSM is covering Cuomo because many of them are in NY, but the point is both Cuomo and Newsom (I’m actually really surprised at him) are able to give daily press conferences where they show they understand the problems and fears of ordinary people and they are working to get us back to something closer to normal or a new normal.

    Trump’s daily shit show press conferences are just all about his grievances for being forced to deal with this crises and attempts to distract attention from his epic failures to deal with it.

    “Talking about the ‘resistance’.. it is an open secret that corporate media and democrats want Trump to fail. To be clear, I am not suggesting Trump is competent- but then again, there is no evidence that his predecessors were any better than him.”

    Total bullshit. Trump put a dog breeder in charge of the pandemic response team. Today Trump suggested injecting bleach to cure the virus.

    Look, your blog post is just obviously pro-Trump propaganda. This pandemic is killing lots of Trump voters and the ones it does not kill are beginning to release that Trump and Republicans don’t give a shit about them. They are ready to sacrifice more Trump voters to pump up the stock market and keep the elites wealthy.

    How are things going there in Russia? I hear the Moscow is locked down and the hospitals are filling up. Millions of Russians fled Moscow spreading the virus all over the country. With oil prices dropping to record lows, does Putin have a plan?

    • Yusef
      April 24, 2020 at 10:17 am

      I would like to take this opportunity to crow about my genius-level IQ.

      Did I not– I mean DID I NOT!– say if MikeCa chose to comment at all he would say exactly the things he’s saying above.

      Okay, I forgot to mention MikeCa would say we were ruskie agents.

      That is a major omission and error on my part. Must be my IQ is only 8,000,447 instead of the 10,003,562 it was officially measured at the IQ Olympics back in ’08.

    • MikeCaCa
      April 24, 2020 at 12:18 pm

      Cuomo for Prez!!!

      Sure he has the highest death tolls, sure there is corruption, but hey, he ain’t Trump…

      What’d’ya say buddy???

    • Jack Donovan
      April 24, 2020 at 1:49 pm

      oh hai Mikey,

      Since yusef is IGNORING me and you seem like a friendly goy (((no social distancing here if ya get my driftwood)))

      Let me suggest, you coulda rubbed it in AD’s face…

      You coulda said, oh hydroxychloroquine, how’s that working out for you?

      As far as Chloroform, not too be confused with Chloroquine, we’ve got plenty ‘o experience with that one here at the wolves of vineland. When liquor doesn’t make yusef drop his panties quicker, well you get the idea… (((and, uh, AD used that one himself when he wants a “discount” from his precious escorts…))))

      But, yeah, since you liberals are all about open mindedness and shit, give the wolves of vineland a chance at some free exploratory prostate screening.

    • Yusef
      April 24, 2020 at 2:47 pm

      “…daily press conferences where they show they understand the problems and fears of ordinary people and they are working to get us back to something closer to normal or a new normal.”

      The horror of this. The HORROR!

      It is this expression, ” a new normal” I find terrifying. It exemplifies the complacency and acquiescence to the new police state tactics we’ll be facing before we even fully understand in what those police state tactics will consist. It is exactly the attitude allowing numerous post-911 assaults on American civil liberties to become the common place in our lives. I refer to the provisions of the Patriot Act, the TSA, Department of Homeland Security, the FISA amendments. The list can go on still be only partial. We have come to look the other way on, may God in his mercy help us, Guantanamo Bay, extraordinary renditions, perpetual war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and active military interventions around the globe too numerous to name, and so on and on and on. All continuing and seen as normal parts of life, with no end in sight.

      “This pandemic is killing lots of Trump voters and the ones it does not kill are beginning to release that Trump and Republicans don’t give a shit about them.”

      Okay, MikeCA is hysterical and his panties are in a twist: that’s why he used the word “release” when he meant “realize.

      He was also hysterical when he said that the pandemic is killing lots of Trump voters. The CDC website gives a provisional count of 24,555 Covid-19 deaths as of April 18,2020. Not all of these deaths are of Trump supporters, either. Most, as we all know, probably don’t vote at all, but of those that do, some support dems or others. What is interesting to note is the same data shows a dramatic drop in deaths between April 11th and April 18th, a decline by more more than half. I am an amateur at this stuff, but I felt this decline in mid-April might be predictable based on the duration of the flu season. But beyond that, the data in existence so far does everything to support AD’s interpretations and highlight the effeminate cowardice and irrationality of people like MikeCA. Indeed, if the deaths by Covid-19 have peaked and are dying out already, no one is going to remember the fumbling ineptness of Trump early on if the death count is as low as it appears it will be, and yet the economic woes and misfortunes of the lock downs linger into November, as they most certainly will.

      (I’m not saying Trump or the Republicans were the only ones fumblingly inept early on, either. Anyone who is not a mind-controlled automaton (of which there are unfortunately so many, as MikeCA so clearly exemplifies, will have observed “Yes, the Democrats moaned about how any measures (travel, etc) were racist, Trump being a dictator and unconstitutional, go out and act normal, show your social virtue cred. Use the subway, by all means,” as Doldrom did, above, at April 21, 2020 at 11:15 am.)

      “They are ready to sacrifice more Trump voters to pump up the stock market and keep the elites wealthy.”

      How did the Democrats vote on the measures, MikeCA? How did Biden vote? For that matter, how did Bernie Sanders vote? You know Mr. MikeCA, if the Democrats weren’t ready to sacrifice their constituencies interests “to pump up the stock market and keep the elites wealthy” they can vote NO. Believe it or not, Mr. MikeCA, if enough vote NO the measures can’t be enacted. But it seems more relevant and important in this context to point out that even if the Democrats couldn’t stop these measures from being enacted, their vote of NO would have been important simply to show THEY WERE AGAINST THEM!

      I have only written this for my own soul. I know MikeCA will not listen or understand. MikeCA, for all his impressive credentials– and if it is true MikeCA has a PhD, I consider that an impressive credential– MikeCA has not learned to think. He’s learned to take a side and then think and say what the leaders of that side tell him to think and say. That’s obedience. It is the opposite of thinking.

      • Jack Donovan
        April 24, 2020 at 4:02 pm

        oh hai yusef,

        I am concern trolled by your new line of thought.

        Now it looks like you can’t get a white woman but instead of joining the wolves of vineland and satiating your lust with white men, you want this off colored woman…

        https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-tells-republicans-to-legislate-like-rent-was-due-2020-4

        yuck, your “replacement” white woman, how icky…

        you and AD can be all, okay, I can’t get a white woman. Let me have Kim Iverson and AOK, that’ll show ’em….

        …..no it won’t…

        you can’t be a steve sailer race realist white man and pine for icky non-white woman. What is wrong with you, yusef….

    • GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE
      April 28, 2020 at 2:00 am

      All gay niggers should drink bleach, as Trump said they should. It cures the GRID-GNV (Gay Nigger Virus) 100 percent.

      • Plaque Doctor
        April 28, 2020 at 5:42 pm

        This one’s better….

  14. Jack Donovan
    April 24, 2020 at 1:51 pm

    okay goys…

    remember to buy much book and leave 5 star reviews…

    donchya dare do what ya did to the great pauline boi elam and leave bad reviews ’cause you don’t like my politics….

  15. Tamerlane the anti-right wing guy with a fake pro male website
    April 24, 2020 at 2:12 pm

    This guy is a right wing conspiracy nutjober!!!

    All these people said the had ‘rona in Feb. and we told them too shut up!!!

    BTW, you aren’t a real man unless you send our stimulus check too me because I am a real man!!!

    • Jack Donovan
      April 24, 2020 at 2:21 pm

      Big Daddy Trump is talking about injecting…

      Hehehehe, I’ve injected many things over the years but my pecker just ain’t the same since I injected bleach to clean out my std’s…

      Time to bring back pervertin !!!

      • Yusef
        April 24, 2020 at 3:50 pm

        Well, Trump doesn’t look very bright there– he’s not a scientist and it shows.

        Apparently the scientists and medical doctors accompanying Trump at the news briefing had findings the virus is killed by light, heat, and disinfectant. (That’s not exactly reassuring about the brilliance of these scientists and M.D.’s either, but hey.)

        Trump’s simple-minded train of thought was if it works outside the body on surfaces maybe it will work inside the body too.

        Trump probably doesn’t even have a basic understanding of anatomy and physiology or medicine. The point is, though, Trump knows he does not. He clearly points out he isn’t speaking as an expert.

        He isn’t telling anyone what to do, either. He isn’t making orders. He was making a well-intentioned suggestion.

        Trump was apparently trying to be helpful. I don’t think he comes off all that bad.

        There are terrible troubles in our society at the interface of scientific skill and expertise to “the intelligent layman”. It hurts us because we ultimately rely on “the intelligent layman” to translate scientific findings into sound public policy. It usually is only disastrous when “the intelligent layman” thinks he/she knows more than he/she does. This is not exhibited by Trump.

    • Yusef
      April 24, 2020 at 3:21 pm

      Thanks Tamerlane.

      The idiotic mook is revealing he has completely and catastrophically overreacted.

      His cure has been worse than the disease.

      If that many Americans were already infected that early, the lock downs accomplished nothing at all. (It is not just that the mortality rate was drastically overestimated.)

      Those Cuomo and Newsome mother fuckers are going to be remembered as liars and fools.

      The MSM motherfuckers who spoke of hospitals being bogged down with the sick, dead and dying; of refrigerated tractor trailers lining up to cart away the dead,and all the rest of the screaming of fire in a crowded theater, are going to be remembered as liars.

      God, how I wish Americans weren’t so damned forgiving and amnesiac.

      By the way, it isn’t even true the result being discussed is breaking science. The existence of infected but asymptomatic cases was known before lock downs began. I’ve linked to that data here on AD’s site previously, perhaps more than once. (They are likely to spin this as “we really didn’t know until it was too late.)

      See, what’s going to be repeated over and over in November is a clip of Trump cautioning “We don’t want the cure to be worse than the disease.”

      Most people won’t focus on Trump then going ahead and enacting a cure worse than the disease. Cuomo doesn’t have anything like that at the beginning of the lock downs to spin as exculpatory.

      No, only idiots ever thought Cuomo was anything but an idiot. Now these idiots are going to have to look in the mirror and “release” they are idiots. Or have their faces smashed into their mirrors to help them see.

      • Tamerlane the anti-right wing guy with a fake pro male website
        April 24, 2020 at 4:10 pm

        “Thanks Tamerlane.”

        That’s Tamerlane the anti-right wing guy with a fake pro male website to you, boyo…

        Men must work collectively, I need you to donate your stimulus money while I “work” behind the scenes at my website:

        https://promalecollective.wordpress.com

        Now donate after than you donated to Paul Elam at AVFM. Don’t question that this isn’t a 503 non-profit, just gimme da money bitch…

    • Yusef
      April 24, 2020 at 3:33 pm

      Notice the way Cuomo pegs the Covid-19 mortality rate at 0.5, in contrast to a typical flu rate of 0.1 to 0.3.

      He is conceding the Covid-19 mortality is nowhere near what he had stated earlier, but he is reserving for Covid-19 it be considered considerably more deadly than a typical flu.

      I think, though, Cuomo is here, as he has so often been, full of shit. Covid-19 is going to fall within the normal range for the flu, and quite possibly on the lower part of the range.

      Cuomo made the statement, “We’ve had a number of scares of pandemics, but until we have the real deal, no one is worried about it.” Well, this was another scare of a pandemic— and people got scared. We didn’t have the real deal but we had the real scare and panic.

      Cuomo and the others wanted a certain kind of response and result from the public, and they contrived this time to get it. Cuomo is actually admitting he wanted people scared.

      There was no damned pandemic. Covid-19 never should have been termed a pandemic. NEVER.

  16. Yusef
    April 24, 2020 at 2:57 pm

    I received my bank statement today, and to my surprise, I have received a fat wad from the US gov’t. (No off-color jokes from Jack Donovan, please.) If everyone else receives theirs in this timely and smooth manner, the Trump administration will score points.

    • Jack Donovan
      April 24, 2020 at 3:51 pm

      Oh hai Yusef,

      Why do you think I would make jokes about those icky off-colored guys? I hate them but do not joke about them.

      Now I see that you like receiving “fat wads” and quite frankly I thought you liked giving because giving is better than receiving. But for you, my sweet aryan yusef, I can be giving, jut as long as you man up and give my mangina some attention.

      And since you mentioned me, I know you really do like me!

      All haile the beauty of the white man !!!!

    • MikeCA
      April 24, 2020 at 8:16 pm

      Congratulations. I got mine this week too.

  17. MikeCA
    April 24, 2020 at 8:14 pm

    Yusef, you have really gone down hill. I guess you have a tough job trying to defend Trump so you just do stream of consciousness nonsense to make it look like you are still doing your job.

    “It is this expression, ” a new normal” I find terrifying….”

    After which you ramble off about a laundry list of issues that have nothing to do with the Covid-19 pandemic, Trump, or our current situation.

    “He was also hysterical when he said that the pandemic is killing lots of Trump voters.”

    I suggest you check out the WorldOMeter site here:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    As of right now, the US has just over 52,000 deaths. Of course not all of those are Trump supporters, but the virus is preferentially killing older Americans which are far more likely to be Trump supporters if they are white.

    I said: “They are ready to sacrifice more Trump voters to pump up the stock market and keep the elites wealthy.”

    You respond with an argle-bargle starting with: “How did the Democrats vote on the measures, MikeCA? …”

    Vote on what? What on earth are you talking about? There was no vote to open up the economy and force everyone to go back to work.

    The economy is not going to get back close to normal until people feel safe going out of their houses. The Trump administration doesn’t seem to realize that is what has to be priority number one. Right now anyone who is paying attention has figured out that the government has no idea how wide spread Covid-19 is. The government has no clue how many people are shedding the virus without showing symptoms. That is why we are locked in our houses. Right now we cannot even test everyone with symptoms, much less think about testing people without symptoms.

    Trump’s response is to say the states need to handle testing which is just passing the buck. Trump insists there are plenty of tests and anyone that wants one can go to any Walmart parking lot and get tested. Everyone knows that is not true. The state and local governments clearly are the ones that need to administer the tests, but only the Federal government has the authority to order companies to produce massive numbers of tests. Currently the US is performing about 200,000 tests per day. We probably need to perform about 2 million a day in order to lift the lock downs.

    Trump’s daily shit show press conferences are not doing anything to reassure Americans that there is a plan. Trump’s whole stick is performance art. He played a reality TV business tycoon. Trump’s fan base loves the grievance based rants and attacks on the press at his rallies, but this is a real crises. People want to hear what the government is doing to resolve the crises, not listen to Trump complain about how the crises is so unfair to him.

    • Yusef
      April 24, 2020 at 8:39 pm

      Fuck you. I have utterly no respect for you or anything you have to say. You are a third rate intellect who had success, if you did, by kissing ass, obeying orders, and generally repeating the party line.

      You’re the kind of scum that in the time of the death throes of America has been able to rise to the top of the pond.

      I know damned well you and your ilk count as America’s intelligentsia, and someone like me is mocked by America’s “intelligentsia” ; I know many more people think like you than like me; I know the people who think like you think you are all so very, very smart, so very, very well informed; I know you and your ilk have been handsomely rewarded, up to now, for thinking the way you think.

      To HELL with you and the people who think like you.

      You are going there anyway once you take the chip, and that is going to be very soon now.

      It is not genius to misconstrue and misunderstand everything your intellectual opponent states. You and your generation of butt fucked have been allowed to get away with this crap. That’s all. Maybe later I will come by and pick this apart, if I feel like it, but for now: FUCK YOU.

    • This site has gone down hill as of late...
      April 24, 2020 at 9:35 pm

      Mr. MikeCA,

      To address a few points…

      The “bailouts” will mostly be bailouts of large corporations (hello 2008!) I suppose some will say that is necessary. For example if airlines are allowed to fail there will be big consequences down the road…

      The $600 stimulus for those unemployed…

      This will likely create more “class resentment.” What about delivery drivers and grocery workers who *maybe* get $15 an hour and work weeks capped below 40 hrs. They are literally risking their lives (if not their longterm health if coronavirus has consequences we don’t know that appear years later…) Should there have been help for the unemployed? Absolutely. But wouldn’t it have been better to give everyone $2000 per month (essentially UBI.) Some would’ve chosen to stay in the workforce and some at the lower rungs would’ve voluntarily left. Those voluntarily leaving still, by default help by following the stay at home order.

      Trump is an idiot and anyone (hello yusef) who takes him seriously at this point is a foolhardy dolt. Cuomo should be thrown in jail when this is all over. Newsom seems to be the “adult in the room.” I suppose “flattening the curve” was the best option that anyone had. But they didn’t seem to think what the “exit plan” would be. If AD was as smart as he claims, that would have been a bigger part of his ANALysis. AD is likely being a pretend sociopath right now and begging “escorts” for discounts while working his “biotech” or it or whatever job overly educated weirdoes work. Notice how “tough guys” like Putin and Bezos have gone “ghost” during this time. Some serious shit is brewing and I don’t think you have to be an Alex Jones fan to see that….

      Now Mikey, I don’t expect you to care but I will share this. Likely, I have been exposed to covid 19. I was not very sick, certainly not requiring medical treatment. But neither was I asymptomatic. I was subtly sick. My body was fighting something and it was past regular flu season. I noticed telltale signs. These included sleeping 4 hours in the middle of the day, something I rarely do. I know these aren’t conventional signs of covid but I also know my body well and I don’t usually feel this way. I begged to get a test and since I am not a first responder nor did I have a high fever, they would not set up an appointment. But let me tell you, if I was covid positive, I would follow whatever guideline given. I would gladly put myself under lockdown. And, yes that faggot yusef will call me a “sheeple” or whatever makes him feel like a real man. But the point is this. In a first world country, everyone who wants a test should get a test. There won’t be a “safe” way to end the stay at home order without massive testing/and/or a vaccine. We will just be sitting ducks for that second wave when all those ventilators break down or some other disaster of errors that should not happen in 2020. Is this all the Democrats fault? Well, they aren’t blameless and as far as I am concerned both parties can go get fucked. Neither the Democrats nor Republicans care about me so why should I care about them…

      I suspect one of two things, you won’t acknowledge anything I say and simply ignore me… or you will accuse me of being a Russian troll.

      • doldrom
        April 25, 2020 at 12:08 am

        The ventilators are BS. Only 5% of those that need them will survive the year. It’s just a gesture, like last rites. >98% of the pool for these ventilators are people who would not last till noon if they were tagging along with a band of nomads.

    • Yusef
      April 27, 2020 at 9:35 am

      “I suggest you check out the WorldOMeter site here:

      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

      As of right now, the US has just over 52,000 deaths. Of course not all of those are Trump supporters, but the virus is preferentially killing older Americans which are far more likely to be Trump supporters if they are white.”

      I suggest in the future you be more careful whose statistics you cite. I also suggest you look here:

      https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

      This is the CDC’s provisional count of Covid-19 deaths. They are now showing 27,674. I did check out your shit site, and their present count shows around 56,000. I know you’re illnumerate so will point out to you that’s more than twice the number the CDC is showing.

      The most important point on the CDC data: Covid-19 peaked on the week ending 4/11/20. (The number was around 9500 and has now been revised upward to over 10K.) I previously looked when only 4/18 data was in and it was already less than half the number on 4/11. When I looked just a moment ago, the 4/25 data was available. The count? 461.

      The “pandemic” has peaked and will now rapidly die away.

      Your stupidity and cowardice this time will reap you a whirlwind. I wish I would be there to see it befall you. Bad, bad times are ahead of us now, such as we’ve never seen in the USA. I know you are just a dumb impotent asshole with a keyboard and a roll of toilet paper but joined together with all the other dumb impotent assholes you do share some burden of responsibility.

  18. Yusef
    April 25, 2020 at 8:32 am

    ” I know these aren’t conventional signs of covid but I also know my body well and I don’t usually feel this way.”

    You got slightly sick from some infection and were feeling mildly run down. This happens to everyone now and then and to some unfortunate people every year. It is, however, no big deal. Because of the media hoopla and hype scaring the shit out of everyone and making everyone into a hypochondriac (we’re all very suggestible, especially now that we’ve all been reduced to perpetual childhood, a “girl’s” childhood at that) your mind has worked on you and made you think maybe you have a potentially fatal illness. You don’t. You’re going to be just fine.

    “I begged to get a test and since I am not a first responder nor did I have a high fever, they would not set up an appointment.”

    There could have been, and should have been, enough tests for the entire U.S. population. I hope this important point will not be forgotten, but of course it will be. Even you will forget it, when you return to “the new normal.”

    ” But let me tell you, if I was covid positive, I would follow whatever guideline given. I would gladly put myself under lockdown.”

    Yeah, well, we all did follow whatever guidelines were given, didn’t we? And we did that without knowing whether we were covid positive or not, didn’t we? So what is your point, here? If Covid-19 had been the “real deal” and this had been demonstrated to the public by credible experts at the beginning, I would not have had any objections to whatever measures were required to “crush the pandemic”. These likely would have been much, much more severe than anything the U.S. put into place at any time during this “pandemic”. I would comply without any questioning at all.

    Can I make it clear to you what my problem has been with this situation? I thought there was something fishy about it from the start, and instead of getting reassured the concerns were real, as time went on, I saw more and more evidence it was largely a hoax. A hoax on this epic scale is not benign and we will not come out of it intact and unharmed.

    “And, yes that faggot yusef will call me a “sheeple” or whatever makes him feel like a real man.”

    I don’t usually use the word “sheeple” but it is true I have little respect for adults who allow themselves to be whipped into a frenzy when Chick Little comes along shouting “the sky is falling, the sky is falling”. Even if this “pandemic” had been truly dangerous I would not respect anyone who gave in to panic and hysteria. This is not to say I wouldn’t sympathize with their frail humanity; it is to say I wouldn’t want, and wouldn’t allow, them to lead me, tell me what to do, tell me what they think, or call me names.

    I don’t know what I would call you, to tell the truth. I wonder why you use different sock puppets to take different positions the way you do. What would I call that? Disingenuous? Maybe, but at least there is usually a sense of humor accompanying it.

    ” But the point is this. In a first world country, everyone who wants a test should get a test. There won’t be a “safe” way to end the stay at home order without massive testing/and/or a vaccine.”

    It’s very funny, and very sad, you think the problem is no exit plan.

    Don’t follow anyone who is half-cocked and telling you to run somewhere half-cocked yourself.

    The next time some asshole in a position of authority dispenses orders to you that are issued without due consideration for their potential consequences, don’t obey. If you are compelled to obey, at least keep your eyes and ears open for ways to make your own exit plan. There are damned good reasons why evil people back their victims into a space where they don’t know how to get out again. That’s called a trap.

    • This site has gone down hill as of late...
      April 25, 2020 at 9:27 pm

      I addressed my comments to MikeCondescendingAsshole and of course YuslessIdiot Yusef writes war and fucking peace while MikeCondescending ignores me. True mark of an asshole, not replying when you are politely asked for a response and then another asshole interjecting when they weren’t asked…

      “You got slightly sick from some infection and were feeling mildly run down. This happens to everyone now and then and to some unfortunate people every year. It is, however, no big deal.”

      you were there so you know it all and of course you are also a doctor and an unheralded genius. That’s right, you can web md and say I am just being a little girl and you are real man. The most optimistic thing is that I was exposed, my body successfully fought it off and I would now have at least some degree of immunity if we see a second wave.(At least let me get a fucking test so I have some goddamned reassurance…) The other possibility is it was “regular” flu and I also fought it off but don’t have immunity to Covid. (The reason why I don’t think this is it was late in the season for regular flu.) And I’m surprised that you didn’t suggest this third possibility. I am such a fragile little man that I was merely suffering from panic attacks and I gotta man up like you.

      • Yusef
        April 26, 2020 at 10:01 am

        I’m curious: why did you change from your usual racist descriptions of eating out men’s assholes?

      • Yusef
        April 26, 2020 at 10:28 am

        You’re right, though, I did forgot that third possibility and it’s a shame. It is the correct one. You are “a fragile little man that I was merely suffering from panic attacks”. Actually, you are fragile little woman suffering from panic and hysteria. It would be a great idea if you would man up, not that it is going to matter now. The greatest harm has been done by you and yours. You fell for it all, bub, and you did so in your display of cowardice.

        You and MikeCa are cut from the same cloth. You might want to consider that when you call him a condescending asshole. I also might note it is remarkable how often you fragile little (wo)men suffering from panic are also condescending assholes. The correlation coefficient seems to be running pretty close to 1.

      • This site has gone down hill as of late...
        April 26, 2020 at 10:46 am

        Yusef,

        I owe you an apology…

        I called you YuslessIdiot…

        I was wrong…

        I should have called you YusfullIdiot…

        (..and you don’t even have the self-awareness too figure out why…)

      • Yusef
        April 26, 2020 at 11:09 am

        You don’t owe me anything and after this, yes, I will give you the last word. I just want you to know after this fake pandemic shit storm I will never ever again suffer anyone face to face to call me a fag or an idiot. I’ll either take or give a beating before I’ll pretend this shit is tolerable.

  19. Yusef
    April 25, 2020 at 11:54 am

    Did I not predict this a month ago:

    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/latest-on-coronavirus-outbreak/world-facing-blood-shortages-due-to-covid-19-pandemic/1802664

    https://www.thenational.ae/uae/health/coronavirus-blood-donations-slump-in-abu-dhabi-over-covid-19-fears-1.1002487

    https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/india-news-as-some-blood-banks-run-dry-due-to-covid-19-lockdown-thalassemia-patients-fear-for-lives/350466

    Sorry these are all foreign sources, but the reality of the situation is that most good coverage is foreign, not domestic. The MSM presstitutes won’t cover such an important side effect as it develops nor will they report on the eventual resultant deaths. It doesn’t fit their narrative.

  20. MikeCA
    April 25, 2020 at 4:19 pm

    I seem to have said something that triggered Yusef.

    “You are going there anyway once you take the chip, and that is going to be very soon now.”

    I think he’s talking about some crackpot conspiracy theory that Bill Gates is supporting vaccine development as a way of implanting chips in people to allow Microsoft(?), the government(?), the Illuminati(?) or somebody to track everyone. So nonsense goes that the covid-19 pandemic is just a hoax crises staged so everyone will be forced to have the chip implanted with the vaccine. This conspiracy theory is being circulated by the usual Trumpist true believers.

    Now why exactly would a guy who claims to be the way Yusef describes himself, spend his time listening to pro-Trump crackpots and writing comments on this blog trying to explain away Trumps apparent suggestion that people drink bleach to cure the virus? (Trump was not being sarcastic. Trump is suffering from mental decline and doesn’t know any better.)

    What exactly has Trump done for you Yusef, that you spend your time here trying to defend him in spite of his obvious catastrophic failure to deal with this crises. China had 80,000 cases and got it under control. South Korea had thousands of cases and got it under control. Germany has done a much better job of keeping it under control so far. Could it have something to do with Trump putting a Labradoodle dog breeder with minimal public health experience in charge of leading the governments response?

    • Yusef
      April 26, 2020 at 10:56 am

      “What exactly has Trump done for you Yusef, that you spend your time here trying to defend him in spite of his obvious catastrophic failure to deal with this crises.”

      It seems to me there is no justification now to speak of a catastrophic failure on Trump’s part. This characterization would be apropos if and only if catastrophic consequences had resulted afterwards. They didn’t. They clearly didn’t. They didn’t. They clearly didn’t.

      Dream on there was a real health crisis on the order of pandemic and a catastrophic failure “on Trump’s part.” Dream on as hard as you can, little man. It might help to start dosing yourself with LSD and psilocybe cubensis because then reality of the scam you’ve promoted and to which you with great cowardice succumbed, only becomes more clear with each passing day.

      You can’t have it so both Trump failed and the pandemic was real. Trump either did something “good enough” or the pandemic was faked, or at least grotesquely and criminally exaggerated. You could have it Trump failed and the pandemic was faked, too, if you wanted, because if the pandemic had been real, Trump really would have failed. However, that is not what you’ve said so far and it isn’t descriptive of the event we’ve all just experienced.

      I had never truly understood the men who decried feminized men stood on solid ground. There were truly very good reasons to know a society so allowing men to act like women had endangered itself ruinously. (This is assuming it is true women panic and lose their cool in dangerous situations, men do not. I previously wished to see that as stereotyping.) I now have been corrected. America suffered itself to regard “men” like MikeCa to have equal status as a man, but MikeCa did not deserve to have this equal status. MikeCa has shown, in the threat of danger, he is not a man.

      I don’t know how everything is going to work out after this shit show….I have doubts things will work out because I have doubts the plutocrats who pull the strings need things to work out (they need people dead, just as if this pandemic were a war.) If we do pull back into a “new normal” (frightful and repugnant though that be to me) I refuse to let it go unremarked that these fems failed in the hour of need. I refuse they be fully reinstated to the equal status of men.

  21. Yusef
    April 25, 2020 at 5:11 pm

    “I think he’s talking about some crackpot conspiracy theory that Bill Gates is supporting vaccine development as a way of implanting chips in people to allow Microsoft(?), the government(?), the Illuminati(?) or somebody to track everyone.”

    One of the greatest minds, not only of this age, but of all ages, and of time out of, and into, mind, has told me I’m entertaining crackpot conspiracy theory. Why am I not quaking in shame?

    Why, on the edict of a mind superior to all, do I not accept the malediction I’m “talking about some crackpot conspiracy theory”?

    It would save me a lot of time and grief if I would bow down to the superior authority of one who knows all…. and give up what I think because it is “crackpot conspiracy theory”.

    After all, I myself avow to conspiracy theory. I think there are ulterior motives behind what has been staged, by Bill Gates, among others.

    However, I myself do not avow to the idea conspiracy theory is crackpot. I avow some conspiracy is crackpot and some is not.

    I avow to the idea a cock sucking douche bag dirt bag ass kissing mental midget and stub dick declaring something is crackpot is no reason whatsoever to accept that whatever it is something is indeed crackpot.

  22. Yusef
    April 25, 2020 at 8:20 pm

    “Now why exactly would a guy who claims to be the way Yusef describes himself, spend his time listening to pro-Trump crackpots and writing comments on this blog trying to explain away Trumps apparent suggestion that people drink bleach to cure the virus? (Trump was not being sarcastic. Trump is suffering from mental decline and doesn’t know any better.)”

    Through listening to pro-Trump people, not crackpots, here at AD’s blog I did have the opportunity to follow a link to a video of Trump news briefing referred to above. (That these timely links appear on the blog so regularly is definitely a reason for tuning in.)

    Trump didn’t say anything remotely to be interpreted as telling people to drink bleach to cure the virus. I come to understand why Trump calls such grotesque departures from the truth fake news. I understand because that’s what they are:fake. They are deliberate misinterpretations, exaggerations and misconstrual. They are malicious distortions, mean spirited, and — most important of all– back fires politically. A lot of people who would not ordinarily, and didn’t for a long time, defend Trump are beginning to do so, as I now do and will. At least against crap on the order of MikeCA’s bull shit.

    “What exactly has Trump done for you Yusef, that you spend your time here trying to defend him in spite of his obvious catastrophic failure to deal with this crises.”

    First of all, I do not pin blame for this crisis, or the poor response, on Trump. I don’t feel like repeating my reasons for this because if you cared about them, you would already have read them. See above.

    “China had 80,000 cases and got it under control. South Korea had thousands of cases and got it under control. Germany has done a much better job of keeping it under control so far.”

    So? It looks to me as if the Covid-19 incidence has peaked and is rapidly declining in the US, too.(According to the CDC web page.) It also appears as if there were already so many infected people in the US before and during the Trump impeachment proceedings you demoRats cooked up (and were focused on) there was no hope of getting it under control ever if by control you mean preventing infections.

    You are not going to be able to escape the increasingly obvious fact this had no business being termed a pandemic and triggering the drastic measures used to “get it under control.” It is going to become more and more obvious Trump was not really in the wrong to wish to proceed cautiously and make an attempt to weigh the wider consequences of “get it under control.”

    You idiots are just making Trump a more sympathetic figure to the working man.

    You think he’s stupid: we think you are stupid. You think he responded poorly: we think panic was the worst possible response.

    I am wasting time and it is a beautiful evening here and I’m going for a long walk.

    • Jack Donovan
      April 26, 2020 at 11:12 am

      oh lala,

      yer talk of “real men” is gettin’ the ole mangina lubed. Well, okay that was really a moist poopfart after binging on taco bell…

      but I am concerned, you talk tough like Alex Jones but when he came to the wolves of vineland, he dressed like a frog and said “Okay, pepe, fuck me like a real man, the estrogen in the water has made me a gay frog…”

      m’kay, total boner loss…

      so, uh, yeah, you need to be manly not weird like Alex Jones…

  23. MikeCA
    April 26, 2020 at 10:47 am

    “Trump didn’t say anything remotely to be interpreted as telling people to drink bleach to cure the virus. I come to understand why Trump calls such grotesque departures from the truth fake news.”

    I happened to be watching that portion of that days press conference in real time, so I saw the whole episode. Of course Trump didn’t tell people to drink or inject bleach. It looked to me that Trump was thinking out loud, asking his science advisers to look into using bleach or something like that as a cure. The point is any adult knows that bleach is poisonous. This is the kind of thinking you expect from a ten year old.The fact that Trump would say something so totally idiotic out loud to the top medical administrators that are trying to deal with an epidemic and expect them to waste their time explaining to him that it was a stupid idea shows how badly Trumps mental abilities have declined.

    Look, clown shows can be entertaining, but this is a national emergency. Most Americans are locked into their homes trying to survive a pandemic. They are not tuning into the daily White House press briefing to watch the three stooges.

    • This site has gone down hill as of late...
      April 26, 2020 at 11:06 am

      Hey MikeCondescendingAsshole,

      I noticed you didn’t reply to any points I brought up…

      Yeah, Trump is an idiot and a dangerous leader…

      “Of course Trump didn’t tell people to drink or inject bleach. It looked to me that Trump was thinking out loud, asking his science advisers to look into using bleach or something like that as a cure. The point is any adult knows that bleach is poisonous. This is the kind of thinking you expect from a ten year old.The fact that Trump would say something so totally idiotic out loud to the top medical administrators that are trying to deal with an epidemic and expect them to waste their time explaining to him that it was a stupid idea shows how badly Trumps mental abilities have declined.”

      You hit the nail on the head…

      Now lets turn it around to your boy Joe Bidden…

      Would he do any better?

      Both those guys are like your old racist uncle who drinks too much and rambles on. The reason why you avoid family gatherings. Obviously YusfulIdiot Yusef wants a “tough guy” rather than smart leadership. I just wonder when he is gonna make comments about knocking out my teeth and me not being able to get dental care.

      The Democrats are useless and so are the Republicans…

  24. Yusef
    April 26, 2020 at 11:30 am

    Out on my walk last night, I had a neighbor come up to me panhandling twenty dollars. She said she was starving. Her car had just broken down,too.

    These are just my personal anecdotal observations, but I have had a variety of them recently. They have been highly unusual and disturbing. I have never before had a neighbor panhandle or claim starvation.

    We really do not know what Americans are experiencing or how close we are to another absolutely real kind of catastrophe having nothing real to do with viral pathogens. I suspect, though, we’re not only close, but have arrived.

    AD’s original thesis was the suffering would be more acute in the US and my opinion is his predictions– this is something which could be reasonably predicted– are emerging as correct.

    AD is also correct to think Trump’s various gaffes and boneheaded prognostications will be overlooked in November if he succeeds in convincing people he’s been the one to help them with their real needs. In contemporary USA, like it or not, whether it is a good thing or not, having money is a real, vital need of the man on the street.

    If the demoRats continue to harp on how stupid Trump is, it isn’t going to matter Trump is kinda stupid. If the demoRats focus on how bad Trump is, rather than on what they can do for the man on the street in the here and now, the demoRats are dead in November.

    That the dems need to focus on the little guy’s economic predicament is also what AD has argued over the months, over the years, and this also is emerging as abundantly correct. Yet MikeCa is still arguing Trump is telling us to drink bleach, apparently believing hyperbole about Trump’s stupidity is a relevant or effective response. By the way, MikeCa, you’re an old white guy who thinks he knows it all. How really different are your cognitive abilities to Biden’s and Trump’s?

  25. Yusef
    April 26, 2020 at 1:52 pm

    Israeli professor cites the lock down measures as resulting from mass hysteria:

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-israeli-prof-claims-simple-stats-show-virus-plays-itself-out-after-70-days/

    I agree with Ben-Israel: the emerging data on Covid-19’s duration (or life expectancy) does not vary with the variation of national methods of response. The lock downs had no effectiveness. They were ruinous economically, and this ruin was suffered unnecessarily. God how I wish the shit would hit the fan this time.

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