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Delaying Functional Adulthood is Biggest Societal Mistake of Our Era

Almost a decade ago, I read an article which bemoaned that the average age for getting your first research grant as a principal investigator in american universities was now 42 and rising. A couple years later, I read another article about how female academics delaying childbearing till their late-30s to early-40s resulted in a lot of heartbreak due to the inevitable miscarriages and fertility problems. Some of you might have also read how Gen Xers, Millennials etc have a small fraction of the wealth their parent’s generation had accumulated at the same age. All of this got me thinking whether deliberately obstructing functional adulthood, now the default in every western country in past couple of decades, was the biggest societal mistake of this era with massive downstream negative consequences.

I am sure many of you, especially those from coastal areas, have heard tons of stories about guys in their 40s with decent jobs but unable to afford their own apartment or houses. And it is not just men, since the low rate of women in long-term relationships in such areas results in many of them living with roommates or their relatives. Now I am certainly not suggesting that being part of a nuclear family in a suburban house surrounded by a white picket fence should be the default. Indeed, many countries and cultures (outside the west) have significantly more communitarian living arrangements. But there is a major difference between people living in multi-generational households in Spain, Italy, India, China etc. In those countries, society is structured around such living arrangements.

In contrast to that, societies in west European countries and north America are built around the assumption that almost everybody will live in some sort of nuclear family. These societies are structured around the assumption that people will pair up, marry or cohabitate, pop out 2-3 kids and so on in a certain sequence and at a specific pace. This set of assumptions affects everything from the design and growth of suburbs, projection of automobile sales, tax receipts for schools and infrastructure, funding assumptions for universities and other post-secondary institutions etc. To put it another way, the continuity of a large part of money flow in western societies is dependent on most people living the status quo lifestyle.

But the adverse effects of societies creating circumstances that delay functional adulthood go far beyond than disrupting established patterns of money flow. For starters, these societies are built around the myth that a certain type of lifestyle (individualistic, nuclear family etc) is the only way to be perceived as successful by your peers. Contrast this to places such Spain, Italy, Mexico, India, China etc where there are many almost equally acceptable pathways to be seen as successful and “normal”. While the preferred lifestyle in western countries was realistically achievable for a majority as late as the 1990s, it hasn’t been so for about two decades- especially if you live in larger metros- coastal or not.

An ever bigger problem stemming from this profound mismatch between reality and theory is that the inability of most people to achieve a supposedly “normal” lifestyle causes them to lose faith in those societies and their institutions. That is why, for example, people above 30 who have never married or been in long-term relationships seldom do so later. It is also why a majority of people have zero trust in anything coming out the mouth of “experts” or other “credentialed” people. Such people are also not connected to the society they live in and have little to zero interest in its continuation past their own death. In other words, you end up with many highly alienated people who could care less if the system burned down in front of them.

A further consequence of societies intentionally delaying functional adulthood is that little to no progress occurs because most people are too busy chasing scarce financial opportunities or fickle social status. Therefore very few, if any, devote their livers or careers to doing anything aimed at improving the dying status quo. There is a reason why scientific advances went down over past 40 years but especially in past two decades. There is a reason why soya boys without any real abilities beyond pretending to understand, being culturally relevant etc seem to be the most common type you see in younger age groups. In summary, societies putting obstacles in the path of people becoming functional adults are doomed to slow collapse and growing irrelevance. This isn’t going to end well- is it?

What do you think? Comments?

  1. P Ray
    February 18, 2021 at 1:04 am

    The delay for functional adulthood actually has (at least) several parts to it, and of course I am not the final word, but this is what I can see:

    1)Men observe women routinely giving excuses for guys she is attracted to, while having a laundry list of requirements for men she’s NOT attracted to …

    2)Companies having a written list of requirements for a job, but then hire someone completely different as long as their personality vibes with a decision maker … thus keeping out “undesirable” people … acting just like women …

    3)Men discovering you can do all the right things and still end up with nothing + CONservative thought-terminating cliches like “Work hard and you will succeed” and “If you didn’t get what you wanted it’s because you don’t deserve it”

    4)People play a lot of videogames for the simple reason that games have strict rules, real life doesn’t (The Unfair Platformer is a good example of a “realistic game”) …

    5)A lot of people seeing the incompetence around them, come to realise in a superficial society … it is not what you know, but WHO you know that gives you a livelihood …

    6)The media are routinely framing managers and tycoons are the only people with brains, when they were merely lucky and not skilled …

    7)Women committing crimes, the public is urged to be understanding; men committing crimes, the public is urged to condemn them …

    As I said, I’m not the final word, but a society with 2 sets of rules for the genders, is one that will give rise to lots of lovely terrorism, depression and alienation.

    • P Ray
      February 18, 2021 at 1:51 am

      Oh ya, also left out:

      8)Parents who are so concerned about “what other people think” that they either a)Cut off all support to their kids “I made it with no help from my parents” (despite the different environment, educational attainment and expectations in a previous time), b)Push the child into fields they are not interested in and cannot excel at (live vicariously through their children) c)encourage 1950s style chivalry and morality towards the child that will probably not grow up to be like those film stars in terms of cock, countenance or cash and d)encourage the (only benefits leaders/connected people) mentality of CONservative (“work hard and you will succeed”) or LIEberal(“you can be whatever you want to be”) extremism.

      • Social Observer
        February 18, 2021 at 4:48 pm

        Unlike older times, it is all but impossible for an 18 year old to be self supporting except in extreme rural areas. Either join the military, live like an animal, or turn to crime.

        I personally don’t get parents who kick their kids out. I have many issues with my parents but they gave me a place to live and what financial support they could manage until I graduated and got work.

        And the go to college push also makes it worse, because many jobs that expect college really don’t need a degree. Worse yet if Masters. So almost nobody under 25 can get these jobs.

  2. Cheers
    February 18, 2021 at 6:23 am

    The invention of the birth control pill changed everything in western societies. There is no going back now.

    • doldrom
      February 18, 2021 at 10:37 am

      You hit the nail on the head. Society and morality were largely organized around the necessity of providing food and stability to (nuclear) families which came about automatically as a result of male/female bonding. Abortion and contraceptives changed all that, made the morality old-fashioned, weakened the pair bonding (helped by welfare and women careering before child-birth made them dependent), women working meant a lot more jobs chasing the same number of houses, etc etc. Shouldn’t romanticize countries with multi-generational arrangements: often the result of limited housing, limited opportunities, not being able to divide farms/land any further, etc. In most cases all these arrangements align with the necessity of surviving rather than with cultural/ideological imperatives.

    • Parker Bensen
      February 18, 2021 at 4:05 pm

      + Antibiotics. Before they were invented, syphilis was the ultimate slut deterrent.

  3. ....poop and caca...
    February 18, 2021 at 11:36 am

    …it’s funny, Roosh 5 can no longer sell his pua snake oil and he is trying to sell equally scammy bullishit…

    …when my beard goes as grey as Doosh, I won’t be trying to pick up drunk skanks at bars. Even when it was “socially acceptable,” I found that about as interesting as eating poop. And since II am not a coprophiliac, that is not at all 😉

    MGTOW got it all wrong, they stopped talking about going ghost and became snake oil salesmen along side Doosh. They complained constantly about wimminz whilst corporate America was shoving it up their ass just as hard as if they visited a WN stronghold like the wolves of vineland.

    There will be a not statistically insignificant number of bachelor men who have zero interest in taking care of a woman who will not bear him children, have zero interest in corporate AmeriKKKa, have zero interest in the fate of their cuntry tits of pee…

    “What have you done for me lately” is a two way street…

    …and it’s only 20 something twinks like ER who can be shamed with “yer just bitter because you cahnt get laid…”

    AD can still get his love worm wet with 19 year olds with a financial arrangement ™ whilst the rest of us realize we can live comfortably on a sub 30k lifestyle and not too many worries….

    Strange when your biggest problem is “what do I do with all this free time…”

    • Parker Bensen
      February 18, 2021 at 4:54 pm

      Roosh truly is an interesting case, in that sort of slow-motion Hindenburg burning up can’t help but stare in horrified yet fascinated awe.

      Back in the day, he could at least peddle his snake-oil because, at least in his writing and content production, he was able to relate to the plight of young men who had a hard time with the ladies.

      Since his “conversion”, all of his content is just empty religious platitudes. His complete lack of empathy for young men is glaring, telling them they need to go to church, find a good God-fearing girl and get married. Uh, when he did mushrooms, were they deathcaps that caused permanent brain damage and made him forget what he himself had been writing about for the past decade, and at least pretended to have an understanding of?

      “All sexual thoughts are demonic.” Not only is that not true, it’s a tone-deaf and irresponsible thing to say. Again, has he completely forgotten what it’s like to be a young man with a libido, and what (supposedly) inspired him to quit his comfortable job and travel the second and third world looking to satisfy.

      I’m not even promoting a PUA/player lifestyle. Devoting your life to chasing a nut has many shortcomings. I’m definitely not anti-Christian, either. But after all Roosh has been through, is all he has to offer young men “sexual thoughts are demonic, pre-marital sex is evil”.

      Reminds me of when I was a young schmuck trying to quit porn and googling for any sites that might help me, only to get, “The Lord Jesus Christ doesn’t want you doing that.” No kidding.

      Wow, that was a long angry rant on my part, but it needed to be said.

      “Sexual thoughts are demonic”. Yeah, speak for yourself Roosh, maybe your fantasies are what others might consider pretty demonic.

      • ...poop and caca...
        February 18, 2021 at 9:19 pm

        …there is a much simpler answer…

        Doosh ain’t aging well…

        (and didn’t the manuresphere promise me it is wimminz that hit the wall?)

        He can’t play the handsy male feminist professor…

        He would just look like grandpa pervert trying to pick up 20 something feminist trash at a hipster bar. Even with his extraordinary lack of self awareness he realizes this. He would look even more pathetic than predatory.

        Of course he can’t simply say “I’m too fucking old to do PUA now onto my second cahrear because I wasn’t smart enough to sock away money and create an escape plan.” He is now selling the worlds oldest snake oil-religion…

      • anon2021
        February 19, 2021 at 12:01 am

        Roosh knew that too many women were gunning for him and that sooner or later a sexual assault-rape charge would land. So now he’s peddling his redemption story to christards? Sounds legit.

      • Alt Reich Gaylord Cuck!
        February 19, 2021 at 10:33 am

        “Roosh knew that too many women were gunning for him and that sooner or later a sexual assault-rape charge would land. So now he’s peddling his redemption story to christards? Sounds legit.”

        get him back for the white man, man up and impregnate his sister…

    • P Ray
      February 19, 2021 at 5:11 am

      He did get at least one prediction right – that the CONservatives are no different from the “shitlibs”:

      The 1488 mob of the alt right, consisting of white purity enthusiasts who assemble on Twitter and 4Chan, has gone from being a fringe portion of the alt right to the dominant, most numerous, and most vocal force that examines the blood purity of alt right members and that of their girlfriends and associates (I’ve even seen members demand genetic test results to prove percentage of whiteness). Starting in December of 2015, this mob began attempting to purge moderates from the alt right who dared to follow non-white people on Twitter, or who took a vacation to an Asian country to flirt with non-white women. They also came after me, sending hundreds of angry tweets for the main reason that I’m not white but am seen as attractive and masculine by white women.

      The alt right has begun doing what they wanted to do all along: control the sexual choices of men. The following two conditions must now be met if you are to be accepted into their e-movement:

      If you’re a white male, you’re forbidden to sleep with a non-white girl, because that is “race mixing” and goes against their race platform, even though the white race was certainly produced as a result of pre-historic race mixing.
      If you’re a non-white male, you’re not allowed to sleep with a white girl, because you’re a nigger/kebab/gook, and you must be deported from the country you happen to be a citizen of or outright killed.

      I’ve gotten messages from hundreds of self-proclaimed members of the alt right who say I can’t be “in” their movement, even though I have never contributed for an alt right site or spoken at one of their functions. One man said I can only be a member if I don’t sleep with white women, and I’ve seen the mob attack other men who have non-white girlfriends. The alt right has gone from a possible political alternative to a frustrated mob that wants to control the sexual choices of all men. With whom have we encountered that before?


      Feminism is a movement that aims to maximize female sexual choices while minimizing male sexual choice. Feminists shame men who date younger women and who have preferences for thin and beautiful women. Feminists have petitioned the legal system to invent the crime of “sexual harassment” to constrain male behavior and have changed the laws on due process to criminalize the act of consensual sex. They use the accusation of “rapist” on an increasing number of men who dared to exercise their sexual choices in a legal manner.

      The alt right started as a nationalist movement, and that’s what many people believe it to currently be, but we’re only three months away from it being a movement primarily concerned with minimizing the sexual choices of everyone. While feminists want to control how a man has sex, the alt right wants to control who they have sex with.

      • Jack Donovan
        February 19, 2021 at 10:27 am

        oh, that hindu muffin snuck in the wolves of vineland with HBD paperwork from Steve Sailor! WE’s shoulda known as it is KKKoreKKKtly spelled Sailer, he is not Pop-eye da Sailor man! WE’s was lovemaking’ and I licked his unwired but before he stuck his lil muzzle terrorist where my sun don’t shine.

        “I is really a muzzle” was the sweet nuffin he whispered not my ear as he rapped away!

        Real men don’t cry but I sure did. Just like the juice Milo, he refused to cuddle afterwords.

        Pee (sp)Ray, I am sure cqwalitee honorary Aryans like you and Diablo would not juice me like he did!

  4. Parker Bensen
    February 18, 2021 at 5:01 pm

    A further consequence of societies intentionally delaying functional adulthood is that little to no progress occurs because most people are too busy chasing scarce financial opportunities or fickle social status.

    I grew up in the 90s, with all of its Star Trek The Next Generation utopianism, how technology was going to deliver us all from all the world’s ills.

    Funny how that slowly morphed into needing to address climate change by lowering our standards of living.

    One smokescreen after another.

    • ...poop and caca...
      February 18, 2021 at 9:23 pm

      oh how The Jetsons and Star Trek cuck’d us so…

      weren’t we supposed to be flying around in space ships, getting all the besets foods outta the transporter thingy and living to 192 years old?

      if I had a conspiracy theory mindset, I’d almost say we were baited and switched and the “technology” we were given-smart phones, ez access to pro et al was just to make us not stop and think why things aren’t so much better…

      Mortgage myself a quarter of a million dollars or more just to have a place to live? Work sixty hours a week when papa barely worked 40? Is the really “progress?”

      • February 20, 2021 at 12:06 pm

        Yeah the timing of the first iPhone dropping is spot on – circa the Great Recession.

        I’ll take upward mobility and an old brick phone any day.

  5. February 18, 2021 at 5:28 pm

    2 solutions. A burning down, or a parallel society-imposed neo-caste system, which would really be even worse.

    It will start from a subculture that is more communitarian. Amish, Latinos, something new – not important. As a result, they will adapt to the fickle conditions better than the almost autistically individualistic “normies”. However, since the individualists are still the majority, and keep screwing up everything, and therefore for the communitarians too, at some point when the system explodes, and the communitarians fare far better, the individuals will be rightfully blamed, and bam, enslavement forever.

    • P Ray
      February 19, 2021 at 11:39 am

      That will only work as long as a system of guaranteeing females and punishing adultery occurs.
      A system which isn’t attractive to men, doesn’t last unless it can sucker in immigrants to give cash to prop it up.

      You can see why the US, UK, NZ, Canada, Australia … like to promote their salary, scenery and salaciousness … but leave out feminism, fuckery and fraudulence.

  6. Mike CaCa
    February 18, 2021 at 11:56 pm


    Let them cede!

    BTW, my neighbor was that idiot joe room good thing we exported hm to tex-ass where he’ll fit in with the steers and queers!

    They can be a third world country like MessyCo

  7. Parker Bensen
    February 19, 2021 at 1:15 am

    Well that’s disappointing. He didn’t even try “Ayatollah game”

    from Imgflip Meme Generator

  8. Parker Bensen
    February 19, 2021 at 1:17 am

    Well that sure went tits up. I can’t even wordpress.

    • you don't need tech skills to meme...
      February 19, 2021 at 10:20 am

      Create the meme, then click on it to open in a new tab and then cut and paste

  9. Jack Donovan
    February 19, 2021 at 11:37 am

    which one of you, which one of you hindu muffins put this up!

    We been trying to recruit and this is hurting our efforts!

    And stop playing that horrid MegaDeth Song “LoveYou to Death!”

  10. st0ner with a limp dick
    February 20, 2021 at 8:17 pm

    • JAck Donovan
      February 21, 2021 at 12:02 pm

      this is required watching at the wolves of vineland

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