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Public Health “Experts” Have Fucked up Official COVID-19 Messaging

As many of you have realized by now, the official messaging about (and recommendations by) COVID-19 by most public health “experts” has been incredibly bad- and it would still be a big understatement. While some of you might think that their disastrously bad messaging and policies will only cause short-term damage to public trust in medicine, I think otherwise. As you will see in rest of this post, many of the incredibly stupid recommendations and policies which are vociferously promoted by most public health “experts” are going to have some truly awful long-term consequences. Here is just a preliminary list..

1] I am sure that in the past few weeks, most of you have read many articles quoting public health “experts”, including leaky faucet, repeating the same bullshit- namely, that widespread vaccination won’t change their policy recommendations about ineffectual face-mask wearing, useless “social distancing” or other stuff such as reopening schools or public gatherings and events such as indoor restaurants, drinking establishments, music concerts, sporting events etc. And this raises an important question- what is the motivation for most people under 50 to get vaccinated (especially with untested mRNA-based vaccines) if nothing is going to change in the foreseeable future. It is is now common knowledge that COVID-19 infection in people under 50 has an extremely low mortality rate (about 1 in a few thousand).

To make matters worse, this position makes people wonder if other vaccines are effective. By claiming that COVID-19 vaccines are not effective enough to let western societies go back to the way they were before March 2020, these dumbfucks are providing an amazing amount of free ammunition for anti-vaxxers. Think about it.. if the vaccines that are claimed to be 95% effective (which they are not) cannot stop the spread of an infection to the satisfaction of these morons, what is the point of taking any other vaccine? I predict that we will see a huge increase in public skepticism towards vaccination, in general, in aftermath of this pandemic. It does not help that many diseases controlled by widespread childhood vaccination such as measles, chickenpox, rubella, mumps etc are quite rare nowadays and not dangerous to well-nourished children who are under 12 and living in developed countries.

2] Now let us talk about the side-effect profile of vaccines- specifically those based on mRNA (Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna). As I have written in previous posts, the 2nd dose of both vaccines causes moderately severe side-effects resembling influenza which last 2-3 days in about 20-30% of those who take it. While this side-effect profile is acceptable in those above 70, it is not clear how most people under 50 (who are not brainwashed or addicted to virtue display) will accept vaccines if it causes a more severe illness in a higher percentage of them than the infection itself. And it keeps on getting interesting..

Not content to pretend that vaccines won’t change their ineffectual and moronic policies, the idiots have also spend a lot of time pretending that COVID-19 vaccines (specifically mRNA based) are free of serious side-effects. However even a cursory look at data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) of USA and Europe says otherwise. While the rates of vaccine-related death in older people is probably somewhere between 1 in few thousand, it is real and about 100x the rate for other common vaccines such as those for Influenza. They also demonstrate a noticeable tendency to cause otherwise rare side-effects such as idiopathic thrombocytopenia and 3rd trimester miscarriage in otherwise healthy pregnant women. Reports of moderate side effects such as disturbed menstruation patterns, pronged swollen axillary lymph nodes, transient peripheral neuropathy etc are far more common.

3] All this talk about vaccines brings us the issues of “mutants” or “new strains” of COVID-19 whose detection is breathlessly reported every day by the MSM. The morons aka public health “experts” want you to believe that these are unprecedented and will somehow render existing vaccines useless. Of course, as before these idiots betray their lack of understanding of viruses and the human immune system. So let me restate the obvious- the genetic material in all viruses, and living creatures in general, constantly mutates. While this process is slower in significantly faster in RNA-based viruses such as Coronaviruses than organisms which use DNA to store their genetic information (like human beings), it occurs nonetheless.

But here is the funny thing.. Coronaviruses have among the smallest rate of mutations for any major family of RNA viruses. Nor as they have segmented genomes capable of large-scale recombination like Influenza viruses. But what does any of this mean? Well.. for starters, the immune system of all vertebrates has evolved a number of tricks to deal with very similar viruses. These range from producing a mixture of antibodies to a single viral antigen which bind at overlapping sites to immune cell activation directed at multiple overlapping sequences (epitopes) from that antigen. Did I mention that all viruses contain more than one type of antigen.This is why it is possible to develop efficacious vaccines against RNA viruses such as those which cause Polio, Yellow Fever, Measles and many others even though they are more prone to mutations than COVID-19. But you won’t hear this from public health “experts”.

4] We should also talk about how the COVID-19 response has polarized people by politics and ideology. It is no secret that what people believe about the validity of official response to this pandemic is highly dependent on their political leanings and ideology. Currently promoted public health measures seem to have no effect on cumulative rates of hospitalization and death due to COVID-19. If you don’t believe me, just compare Florida with California or Sweden and UK. To make matters more interesting, countries in East, South-East, South Asia and Africa have far lower (20-100 times) rates of hospitalization and death than what one might predict based on their population characteristics. And yes.. this effect is very obvious even after aggressively adjusting for age structure of their populations.

So what is going on? If you asked me.. I would say that those populations very likely have partial cross-immunity (mostly cell-based) from previous infections by other Coronaviruses. And let us clear about something, in countries such as India more than 50% of the urban population now exhibit serological evidence of previous infection by COVID-19 compared to rates of a few percent about 5-6 months ago. The point I am trying to make is all of the much vaunted and promoted public health measures have no worthwhile effect on the spread of COVID-19. But try telling any of this to the credentialed losers and “expert”-worshipers. You know.. the same types of people who have made a secular cult out of mindlessly repeating the rancid farts emanating from the mouths of all these ineffectual “experts”.

It is this cult of worshiping morons that is being everything from their resistance to reopening schools and universities, restaurants and bars etc. These are also the same idiots who pretend that international travel is dangerous in spite of western countries being the most heavily infected in world. We are already seeing a significant minority of this group defecting to the pro-open/normalization side because they are now being personally inconvenienced. Expect a severe electoral backlash against those seen as supporting ineffectual but highly damaging lockdowns and expert-worshipers (aka Democrats) in 2022 and likely 2024.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. P Ray
    February 23, 2021 at 9:55 pm

    Part of the problem for ineffectual action against CoViD-19 is the constant need for leaders and healthcare professionals to show “they are on top of things” by responding to any and all news reports, making it like an Internet argument taking place in real life.

    The other problem is people wanting their leaders to be on-call entertainers, so that only the most visible or sensational get coverage and will get voted in next.

    So you wind up with a stream of messaging, and not just a few simple rules people have to keep following to minimise their exposure AND viral load transmission.

    I’d also be sceptical about that amazing idea of “completely asymptomatic disease carriers that have absolutely no symptoms or anything wrong in any way, yet somehow have the virus in them” … the reality is people know this virus is transmissible, they know their own body, yet in the interest of earning or spreading the virus will avoid screening.

  2. Mike CaCa
    February 23, 2021 at 10:04 pm
  3. MikeCA
    February 28, 2021 at 2:59 pm

    You really should go back to trying to convince young men to use escorts. As Russian PsyOps go it was kind of lame compared to QAnon, (the guy that came up with Q really deserves a raise) but it was unique, funny and entertaining. Now your blog posts are all the same COVID-19 disinformation recycled over and over. It is hard to tell the posts apart.

    You know the real reason the official COVID-19 messaging has been such a mess. It all started with the Orange Man who decided to treat COVID-19 as a political problem rather than a public health problem. Trump politicized COVID-19 messaging and tried to make it go away by lying about it. He even put Ivanka in charge of rewriting CDC press releases.

    Democrats politicized COVID-19, not Trump. He was just being himself aka incompetent.

    Now at this point the messaging is hopelessly politicized.

    “…widespread vaccination won’t change their policy recommendations about ineffectual face-mask wearing, useless “social distancing” ”

    Face masks are not “ineffectual” they are just partially effective. Some masks are better than others. Things like KN95 masks are better than what most people are wearing. For something like shopping, they should offer good protection.

    If cloth face masks are “effective”, who do doctors and nurses wear N95s or above? Are you aware of the extensive previous literature showing that even surgical masks are ineffective against airborne viruses.

    Social distancing definitely works, it is just hard for people to keep up for a long time.

    Based on what evidence? Mortality per 100k people is lower in Sweden than UK and many other west European countries. FL and TX have lower cumulative mortality rates than CA, NY, NJ, MA. If social distancing or face masks “worked”, this would not be the case.

    Look, the combination of mask wearing and social distancing just about wiped out the flue season this year. The thing is COVID-19 is way more contagious than the flue.

    Have you also considered the possibility that it is not being diagnosed? Are you aware of the “new” guidelines for reporting COVID-19 deaths? Do you realize that most west European countries have seen no large changes in patterns of death by organ system involved. So, the number of old people who died from pneumonia from any cause has not changed that much from 2019.

    “or other stuff such as reopening schools or public gatherings and events such as indoor restaurants, drinking establishments, music concerts, sporting events etc.”

    If they get teachers vaccinated, there is no problem reopening schools. Restaurants and bars are probably going to open in California for reduced capacity indoor dinning soon, which is probably a bit early. Concerts and sporting events at reduce capacity will probably come back soon.

    Tell me something.. why have countries ranging from Canada and France to Sweden seen no spike in cases or death in spite of having schools open for all these months? Odd.. isn’t it? What about states such as FL, TX, SC etc?

    How quickly things go back to how pre-COVID normal will depend on a lot of things we don’t know right now. We do know that the vaccines reduce serious illness and death from COVID-19, but we do not know to what degree they reduce transmission. Can vaccinated people get asymptomatic cases or mild cases and pass it on to others?

    Actually the Phase 3 trials did not have sufficient statistical power to conclusively say that vaccines reduced rates of death. Let me remind you that Isreal, which vaccinated all its over-70 population weeks ago still has higher rates of hospitalization and death and neighboring Lebanon which hasn’t vaccinated even a tiny percentage of its population.

    By Summer they claim there will be enough vaccine in the USA for everyone 18+ that wants it. Many anti-vaxers will acquire natural immunity by catching it (and hopefully only a few dying). At that point COVID-19 should be much less dangerous disease, causing a lot fewer hospitalizations and/or deaths.

    COVID-19 is far less dangerous than you think. If that wasn’t the case there would be tens of millions dead in countries such as India right now.

    Variants are the wild card. Some variants already seem to partially evade the immunity current vaccines cause. Its possible there will be variants that completely evade the vaccine immunity, but I’m hopeful by the end of Summer we will be much closer to being back to normal.

    Do you even know how the immune system works? Viral variants don’t matter much to immune system, because the majority of immune response to that category of pathogens is cell-based, not antibody-based. This is why, for example, immunity from a childhood episode of measles etc can last a lifetime.

    • David Fatroll
      February 28, 2021 at 9:39 pm

      Since you keep on bringing up escorts, I bet you are a male feminist like me who wants to see men going broke paying for nookie!

      • meat loaf in fight club
        March 2, 2021 at 9:54 pm

        Why did you change the name of your site?

        Manboobz was funny as hell, because you’ve got man boobs!

        And as a male feminist it showed your solidarity with women.

      • David Fatroll
        March 3, 2021 at 11:24 am

        oh hai meat loaf, nom nom nom…

        I changed the name because everyone pointed that out , “we hunted the mammoth” tit is!

    • CaCa Mikey
    • doldrom
      March 1, 2021 at 6:14 am

      Masks are not partially effective. The effect is so small that it cannot be demonstrated.
      Not even in controlled environments such as operating theatres with everybody donning and doffing properly and throwing out their masks.
      N95 masks with respirators offer nothing in the way of source control, in fact breathing out through your nose (downwards) is better. Source control was the big mantra, since prevention cannot be demonstrated and had already been dissed by public health authorities around the world.

      The idea that such measures wiped out influenza but are ineffectual against Covid is ridiculous. Covid is not that much more contagious. Perhaps the vectors include fomites, oral/anal, and aerosols … these are things that cannot be stated with any precision (CI levels) and are hard to prove.

      Social distancing should work in theory since you need to be in the vicinity, although new research shows virus particles can travel with the weather, particularly if there is industrial pollution (particles forming the nucleus of droplets). In 1918 the virus made it to the smallest islands all over the world, despite stringent efforts against spread. Everybody going to grocery stores and using public transit and touching the same doorknobs is so far from social distancing … purely symbolic. So far, no correlation can be demonstrated between infection provinces with and without various stringencies in NPI measures.

      You are talking out of your ass. Non-sterilizing ‘vaccines’ (they don’t technically qualify as vaccines) and asymptomatic mild cases will tend to reverse natural selection (which favors more contagious and less virulent variants), potentiating worse variants, since the host is not put out of commission. This effect has already been observed with corona vaccines in the realm of animal husbandry, strains that are effectively lethal to all animals that are not vaccinated.

      The long term effects of these ‘emergency use’ vaccines are unknown, and could potentiate the development of ADE or worse (since people who mix vaccines with natural inoculation will be sporting two or more type of anti-bodies). Emergency use vaccines for a condition that has an IFR of 1/300,000 across all age cohorts (once you back out the comorbidities), that is less than the risk of children who acquire chicken pox, less than the risk of 6 months average driving, less than the extra mortality associated with oral contraceptives. Ivermectin and vitamin D adequacy have been shown to protect against this infection as well as being an effective therapeutic that reduces the effects of serious illness to such a degree that one cannot speak of an emergency, but of course only Nigeria has the medical infrastructure to try on a large scale properly set up RCT, presumably because they did not collect B$33 the past 10 years from the 4 biggest Pharma joints for fraud, misleading information, and bribing doctors. If Pfizer had a natural body instead of a legal incorporaton, he would still be serving time in the pen.

      The number of associated deaths and adverse events being registered in VAERS is humungous, thousands of times higher than other vaccines.

      • doldrom
        March 1, 2021 at 6:21 am

        By the way, all the people warning about flu and covid forming a superimposed wave are just succumbing to a plausible but not empirical line of reasoning. It has always been the case that there is only one virus wave at the same time. This has always remained something of a mystery, and I have not run across plausible hypotheses. The same is true of the waxing and waning of various plagues that can come and go for scores of years and then become dormant.
        As for summer, the virus will wane just as last summer, following the established seasonal pattern (in the US a double hump b/c of the variations in geography). This pattern has nothing to do with ‘letting down our guard’ or holiday travel: respiratory pathogens correlate exactly with the absolute humidity … hence the Dakota’s (high/dry/cold) got whacked the earliest in the current winter.

    • miofios
      March 1, 2021 at 9:20 pm

      Technological responses are always political. The current legitimization of mass surveillance in polities where these tools have historically been used to silence the voices of human rights defenders is reckless. COVID-19 is a business opportunity for surveillance entrepreneurs.

  4. David Fatroll
    February 28, 2021 at 9:40 pm

  5. MikeCA
    March 3, 2021 at 3:25 pm

    “Democrats politicized COVID-19, not Trump. He was just being himself aka incompetent.”

    Trump is incompetent and had no idea what to do. He just fell back on his default response to all problems: call it a hoax, lie continuously and claim Democrats and the media invented COVID-19 to get him.

    “If cloth face masks are “effective”, who do doctors and nurses wear N95s or above? Are you aware of the extensive previous literature showing that even surgical masks are ineffective against airborne viruses.”

    Doctors and nurses work in hospitals/clinics that are seeing many COVID-19 patients everyday. They need the highest level of protection. It would be great if everyone that wanted one could get an N95 mask, but they are still hard to find. The average person going into a grocery store for shopping if far less likely than doctors/nurses to be near someone with COVID-19 for an extended time.

    My understanding is surgical masks actually do filter well, but they do not fit very tightly to the face so they leak air all around the sides. KN95 masks fit the face much more tightly.

    “Based on what evidence? Mortality per 100k people is lower in Sweden than UK and many other west European countries.”

    Deaths per 1 million in Sweden=1278. In other western European countries: Belgium= 1905, UK=1814, Italy=1633, Spain=1502, France=1339, Netherlands=912, Germany=852, Denmark=408, Finland=137, Norway=116.

    Compared to the worse Western European countries like UK and Belgium, Sweden did better, but compared to it neighboring countries, Denmark, Finland and Norway, Sweden did a lot worse. I think we should be asking what Denmark, Finland and Norway did so much better.

    “FL and TX have lower cumulative mortality rates than CA, NY, NJ, MA. If social distancing or face masks “worked”, this would not be the case.”

    If you look at deaths per million, the 10 worst states are: New Jersey=2640, New York=2475, Rhode Island=2392, Massachusetts=2348, Mississippi=2266, Arizona=2210, Connecticut=2148, South Dakota=2140, Louisiana=2080, Alabama=2045.

    Texas=1533, Florida=1456, California=1336, Washington=664, Oregon=528.

    The initial outbreaks were in Washington and the NYC area in the northeast. Hospitals in the northeast were overwhelmed and did not know how to treat COVID-19 resulting in a large number of deaths. Washington did a good job controlling the initial outbreak there and keeping it under control.

    There are many factors beside state and local policy. In California many of the cases are in Southern part of the state. They are concentrated in areas where you have multi-generational house holds with young essential workers who live with their parents and grandparents. In the more affluent parts of California, where families are smaller and many could work from home, the death rates are much lower because social distancing and masks work.

    “Have you also considered the possibility that it is not being diagnosed? Are you aware of the “new” guidelines for reporting COVID-19 deaths? Do you realize that most west European countries have seen no large changes in patterns of death by organ system involved. So, the number of old people who died from pneumonia from any cause has not changed that much from 2019.”

    This seems to be just rambling speculation.

    “Tell me something.. why have countries ranging from Canada and France to Sweden seen no spike in cases or death in spite of having schools open for all these months? Odd.. isn’t it? What about states such as FL, TX, SC etc?”

    There have been spikes in cases in all those locations but probably not related to schools being open or closed.

    “COVID-19 is far less dangerous than you think. If that wasn’t the case there would be tens of millions dead in countries such as India right now.”

    I don’t put much faith in COVID-19 death reports in India.

    “Do you even know how the immune system works? Viral variants don’t matter much to immune system, because the majority of immune response to that category of pathogens is cell-based, not antibody-based. This is why, for example, immunity from a childhood episode of measles etc can last a lifetime.”

    I don’t know much about how the immune system works. What I do know is there have been reports that the South African variant was able to infect some people who had recovered from another variant. Some tests show that some vaccines seem to be slightly less effective in preventing mild illness with the South African variant.

    • miofios
      March 3, 2021 at 4:55 pm

      while i think most people were supportive of 3-4 months of lockdown in the beginning, by now 80% of people are sick of the increasingly draconian and invasive security measures being imposed on everyone.

    • Mikey CaCa is a libtard who loves HBD blogs
      March 3, 2021 at 7:35 pm

      “I don’t put much faith in COVID-19 death reports in India.”

      Just like your shyster gov and his $400 meals, you talk about $ciyence but don’t know shit…

      Less obese people means less deaths from the ‘rona…

      Also, likely that many of the population had been exposed to similar viruses throughout their lifetime so that they had a higher degree of immunity that fat slob Westerners. You fucking Western chauvinist, why don’t you join the proud boise?

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