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‘Lab Leak’ Theory for COVID-19 Was Always the Most Realistic One

Over a year ago, I wrote a post about how COVID-19 was most likely the result of a ‘gain of function’ research. In that post, I referenced an article which made a very good and verifiable case that COVID-19 (also known as SARS-2 at that time) had multiple features which were almost certainly the result of human manipulation. At that time, such talk was considered to be “conspiracy theory” and “disinformation”. Well.. after 500k (maybe 400k?) deaths in USA and Biden’s election to presidency a few months ago, it seems that this theory for COVID-19 origin has suddenly become respectable in “mainstream media”. Very tellingly, over the past year the majority of americans kept believing that COVID-19 was the product of manipulation in a lab rather than direct transmission from some wild animal such as a bat.

To be clear, the main progenitor virus for COVID-19 was almost certainly a bat coronavirus. It’s secondary (and minor) parent was also almost certainly a pangolin coronavirus. However it is very clear, based on a number of features of COVID-19, that the recombinant progeny of these two wild coronaviruses was not the result of a natural event outside the lab. While these features have been mentioned in a number of articles (such as link 1 and link 2). While I could certainly write a longer post detailing the many ways that some of the most relevant features of COVID-19 are far more likely to have arisen as a result of lab manipulation than natural selection, it is best done as a separate post. The very short version is that the combination of features of COVID-19 which underlie its high infectivity in humans are simply too numerous to have arisen naturally in such a short timespan.

Moreover, we still haven’t found a very similar virus in either bats or another animal. Contrast this state of affairs to what happened with SARS in 2003, where they were able to identify the intermediate animal host within 6 months (and original host within a couple of years). Also, the amount of resources spent on that search was a tiny fraction of those devoted to finding their equivalents for COVID-19. To make matters worse, a bunch of FOIA-ed emails from Faucci show that many “experts” who dismissed the lab leak theory actively considered and discussed it at the same time they were issuing denials and writing articles to “debunk” it. We also know that many officials in american medical research bureaucracy wanted to suppress any talk of lab leaks since it would jeopardize their own funding for ‘Gain of Function’ research in viruses. In fact, it is very likely that american collaborations with the Wuhan Institute occurred because regulations in USA made it hard to do such research in this country.

Which brings us to how most of the concrete evidence for an artificial origin for COVID-19 was uncovered by so-called “amateurs” rather that “credentialed experts“. Ever wonder whether these so-called “professional experts” were just incompetent or malicious? I think that it is a combination of the two. While certain “certain experts” such as Peter Daszak, Ralph Baric and Anthony Fauci actively tried to discredit the lab leak theory inspite of clearly understanding (at a very early date) that the virus was most likely the product of ‘Gain of Function’ research, many others were likely too stupid to understand their own incompetence and therefore went along with whatever groupthink was fashionable at that time. And this isn’t surprising, since modern academics selects for submissive, uncreative and borderline incompetent people with strong conformist tendencies. There is a reason why scientific progress in West has largely stagnated for past two to three decades.

So where does all of this lead to? Well.. for starters many “mainstream media” outlets have been trying to stealth-edit all of their previous articles in which they dismissed the ‘lab leak’ theory as “conspiracy” and “disinformation”. Of course, they are getting caught doing so. But this raises an even bigger question- what else they have been promoting over past year has been a lie? After all, these are the same people who tried to convince the american public that Bin Laden had a ‘Dr. Evil’ type headquarters in some mountain in Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein had WMDs. Consider this.. Fauci’s emails clearly show that he himself never believed that COVID-19 could be stopped by cloth or surgical face masks. However, as we all know, he kept aggressively promoting such face masks until the past 2-3 weeks. And yes.. there have been multiple studies which show that normal face masks have no worthwhile effect on the transmission of other respiratory viruses.

In my opinion, the much bigger question is how the final public acceptance of COVID-19 being created by ‘Gain of Function’ research will shape their willingness to fund such research, or even anything vaguely similar to it, in the future. Think about how the Three Miles Island and Chernobyl accidents shaped public attitudes towards nuclear power generation. And let us honest about something else.. lab accidents which accidentally released pathogenic microbes resulting in human diseases, deaths and animal epidemics are not unknown. So something like the lab leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) leak was inevitable. In fact, I am surprised that a massive fuck-up involving generically-engineered pathogens did not happen sooner. Might write another post on this topic based on reader responses and more relevant information in the very near future.

What do you think? Comments?

  1. Karen Vs. Karen
    June 6, 2021 at 9:07 pm

    thought you might enjoy some slapstick humor…

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/3023892/amazon-driver-beats-67-year-old-delayed-delivery/

    watched several times, can’t figure which one is the Karen, maybe both are…

    • doldrom
      June 7, 2021 at 11:39 am

      The blowback of all this white privilege CRT BLM stuff will be terrific.
      Who will ever entrust their child to a teacher or doctor who openly advocates blaming them for whatever and treating them unfairly? Who will ever consult any professional (lawyer/doctor) or submit to surgery by somebody advocating any of this strident preferential/punishing treatment?
      People will start selecting professionals on the basis of race (like them) and safe/sane points of view. This will send things spinning backwards for a long long time.

      • wmws
        June 8, 2021 at 5:22 am

        Dumbfuck, that’s literally what black parents had to go through for years before CRT nonsense. Teachers placing black kids in special ed for no good reason, doctors telling black people not to worry about severe pain until it’s too late or handing them some bullshit pill and kicking them out the door, or over prescribing drugs cause “you blacks have high rate of hypertension” … Etc.
        I don’t advocate for whites having to go through the same bullshit, but considering whites are the ones pushing CRT, out of guilt or maybe just to scam, but you assholes made your bed, can’t complain about sleeping in it.

      • doldrom
        June 8, 2021 at 10:31 am

        I’m not complaining, I’m predicting.

        I owned a house in the ghetto back in the day, in a redlined neighborhood, I know a thing or two about the dynamics at play, and will be last to deny them.

        But this is not going to be an improvement, not for blacks either. All neighborhoods with diverse ethnic populations are lower trust, not just in the States, but historically as well. I well understand people trusting their own kind more when they need help (usually starts with your own family & kin).

        This will not mark a major improvement but will backfire.
        White people empowering black people still assumes that being superior it is noblesse oblige to play hero and help the oppressed.

  2. doldrom
    June 7, 2021 at 11:41 am

    There are a lot of people who have doubts about previous human and animal epidemic outbreaks, whether they sprouted spontaneously from Nature?

  3. MikeCA
    June 7, 2021 at 12:07 pm

    It is clear from the emails released that US health officials knew very early that COVID-19 could have been accidentally released from the WIV lab. Shi Zhengli who was the head of the team doing bat coronaviruses research claims that she has checked every virus that was sequenced in her lab and none of them are closely related to SARS-COVID-2. Shi also claims that no one working in her lab has anti-bodies to COVID-19. Shi admits she has some number of samples that have not been sequenced but refuses to give an estimate of how many. What she says could of course be part of a cover-up.

    There also is Tian Junhua.working at the Wuhan CDC which is a rival group to WIV. In December 2019, just before COVID-19 was recognized, a professionally produced video was released showing Tian collecting bats in caves to get samples of bat viruses. Currently the Wuhan CDC will not say when the scenes shown in the video were photographed. The Wuhan CDC told WHO that they had no samples of bat viruses in their labs so it is unclear what happened to the samples collected in that video. Tian Junhua.still works at the Wuhan CDC but refuses to answer questions from the media. This suggests there may have been another lab in Wuhan studying bat coronaviruses, but the Chinese are trying to coverup whatever it was doing.

    The strongest evidence for the lab-leak theory is the way the Chinese government is acting. It would appear either they think COVID-19 might have been caused by a lab accident or there was some other kind of secret research going on in Wuhan that they don’t want Western scientist discovering. This could also be a kind of bureaucratic reaction because they don’t know what happened and want to control information until they have a better understanding.

    Both SARS-COV-1 (2002) and MERS-CoV (2012) are bat coronaviruses that crossed over to infect humans through an intermediate animal. Natural cross over is still certainly possible. In fact it is possible that SARS-COV-2 crossed over directly to humans. Both Shi Zhengli and Tian Junhua bat hunting teams seem to be careless about wearing protective gear. The thing about SARS-COV-2 is that in young people many of the cases are mild and the disease is far more easily transmitted than SARS-COV-1, MERS-CoV or the seasonal flue virus. Samples from sewage systems indicate that SARS-COV-2 was already circulating in Northern Italy and Washington State in Dec 2019. Because transmission can happen a few days before any symptoms develop, many cases are mild and the severe cases are hard to distinguish from pneumonia the infection was able to spread all over the world before anyone realized it.

    • doldrom
      June 7, 2021 at 12:35 pm

      On Feb 14 2020 Xi came with new laws and protocols and handbooks for all biological research facilities nation-wide. That’s as close to an admission we are ever going to see.

      There’s a lot of different avenues along which manipulated features is a more likely assumption than development … there are multiple smoking guns, really.

  4. Rob
    June 8, 2021 at 1:05 pm

    There was a theory the a German biowarfare guy was working for the US after WW2 and made Lyme disease at an Army biolab. Jesse Ventura had a documentary on it.

    Yes, that is true. Also, have you heard of this guy- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shir%C5%8D_Ishii?

  5. White nationalist
    June 9, 2021 at 5:06 pm

    • Eradica
      June 9, 2021 at 5:08 pm

      homosex and racism is an essential part of huwite identity.

      if you don’t love the huwite man, GTFO…

      • bonerwithastoner
        June 10, 2021 at 12:15 pm

        homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex homosex

        Seriously?

      • Poopmachine
        June 10, 2021 at 9:41 pm

      • the kkkwality of wn trolls has gone down as of late
        June 11, 2021 at 9:56 am

        as pathetic as the real stone wit a bonah is, these white nationalists who are “triggered” by him are mores…

        “bonerwithastoner”-I guess that is “fair use” and falls under parody. Just not good parody.

  6. Big Dong
    June 27, 2021 at 12:19 pm

    Big Dong has provided DIA with the following information:

    Early pathogenic studies of the virus we now know as SARS-CoV-2
    Models of predicted COVID-19 spread and damage to the US and the world
    Financial records detailing which exact organizations and governments funded the research on SARS-CoV-2 and other biological warfare research
    Names of US citizens who provide intel to China
    Names of Chinese spies working in the US or attending US universities
    Financial records showing US businessmen and public officials who’ve received money from the Chinese government
    Details of meetings US government officials had (perhaps unwittingly) with Chinese spies and members of Russia’s SVR
    How the Chinese government gained access to a CIA communications system, leading to the death of dozens of Chinese people who were working with the CIA

    https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021/06/17/breaking-chinese-defector-confirmed-as-top-counterintelligence-official-n398374

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